Character Discussion Do Mihawk fans actually want him to be a Celestial Dragon?
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So since we found out Shanks was a Celestial Dragon a couple years ago, some fans have argued that Mihawk could also be a former CD for the sake of a parallel. The argument is basically based on the way he conducts himself, being very elitist and aristocratic in his demeanor and appearance. The guy even lives in a castle.
And Mihawk doesn't really seem like a pirate in like....anything really. He doesn't have a crew, a flag, nor does he show any interest in the pirate lifestyle of adventure and treasure like the OP.
Some people also argue that Mihawk could be a member of the Nerona family due to his eyes
Personally, I don't really agree with this theory because I can't think of a reason why Mihawk would give up his status tbh. While with Shanks we know that he gave up his status as part of hipster phase
Nah but seriously, Shanks decided to not live among CD's because he was too attached to the lower world and the people in it. Unless Mihawk really cares about the monkeys who live on his island, I doubt he has any close bonds. You could maybe argue that he might have moral issues with it, but he's currently working with a guy who got out of jail for trying to kill 1 million people with a bomb after starting a brutal civil war lol. It seems like the guy just wants a peaceful life.
There is of course the possibility of Mihawk having a similar situation to Doffy where his parents gave up their status, but that would just be reusing a plotline.
Personally, I think Mihawk should be from a royal family of a country that was destroyed. This could explain why he's alone, isn't like any other pirate,doesn't trust people,and and has interest in Crocodiles "Operation Utopia"
so, what is the consensus on the forum about Mihawks backstory? Should he be related to the CD's or something else?
And Mihawk doesn't really seem like a pirate in like....anything really. He doesn't have a crew, a flag, nor does he show any interest in the pirate lifestyle of adventure and treasure like the OP.
Some people also argue that Mihawk could be a member of the Nerona family due to his eyes
Nah but seriously, Shanks decided to not live among CD's because he was too attached to the lower world and the people in it. Unless Mihawk really cares about the monkeys who live on his island, I doubt he has any close bonds. You could maybe argue that he might have moral issues with it, but he's currently working with a guy who got out of jail for trying to kill 1 million people with a bomb after starting a brutal civil war lol. It seems like the guy just wants a peaceful life.
There is of course the possibility of Mihawk having a similar situation to Doffy where his parents gave up their status, but that would just be reusing a plotline.
Personally, I think Mihawk should be from a royal family of a country that was destroyed. This could explain why he's alone, isn't like any other pirate,doesn't trust people,and and has interest in Crocodiles "Operation Utopia"
so, what is the consensus on the forum about Mihawks backstory? Should he be related to the CD's or something else?
It is not about desire but pure logic for me. Mihawk, be it him being a clone, son, copy or whatever in ends up being WILL have a major relationship with Imu and the overarching World Government plot. I can all but guarantee it.
Why would Mihawk be treated differently by Oda than every other character of note? People that want Mihawk to be this random guy that just picked up a sword and trained to be the best are asking Oda to write a character he NEVER wrote before.
Oda loves his parallels. He made Mihawk Shanks rival. He gave Mihawk the worlds strongest blade in existence, which looks like the world government symbol turned into a sword. He made the writing on the golden throne identical to that on Yoru. He gave Imu the exact same eyes plus eye color in the Manga. For some reason Mihawk is the only Warlord where Oda refuses to say where he was born.
Why do all of that if Mihawk is just… a guy? With no deeper ties or backstory as haters and fans alike claim? Oda does not write characters this way. He just doesn’t okay?
People hate on Mihawk, and want him to be less important that he is in terms of his downplayers, but also fans of the character I find too often wish for Mihawk to be this character archetype Oda just... doesn't really do? A true, self-made man who has neither hype bloodlines or a good trainer doesn’t exist in this story.
Everybody in Odas world that has even VAGUE hype, a title, or power of any kind, will have a special family bloodline and can trace their family lineage back to SOMEBODY important or at WORST will have been trained by somebody important.
I can see a scenario where Mihawk was the mirror image of Shanks. Perhaps Imu raped or experimented upon a woman from Kuraigana Island which was Mihawks mom. A Celestial Dragon born in the Blue Sea, that was stolen back to the Holy Land to become a Gods Knight/Gorosei down the line, while Shanks was taken by Pirates/into the lower sea, Mihawk was born in the lower realm but elevated and kidnapped into the Holy Land.
Oda had thus far established NOTHING about Imu and his backstory that would make it impossible for Mihawk to be Imus direct child. Be Imu male or female, we do not even really know what race Imu is, or what sort of being. If Imu is as I suspect a straight up devil, he could have possessed Mihawks mom and or dad and sired him, or if he got access to Ancient Kingdom tech he could have cloned Mihawk etc
As for what differentiates Mihawk from both Shanks and Doflamingos storylines, that is SUPER easy.
Mihawk did not get kicked out of the Holy Land, nor leave because he grew fond of the lower realm, but because he is the antitheses to the Celestial Dragons. A dragon among wyrms or worms.
It would match Mihawks character arc perfectly if he grew bored of the Holy Land and their pointless excesses and cruelty for the sake of cruelty and wished to spread his wings in search for stronger opponents. Oda has established that Mihawk has been searching for strong/worthy opponents from day one.
The earliest instance we KNOW Mihawk was for certain in the lower realm is during Rogers execution during which he would be either 18 or 19 years old. Perfect age for him to go check out the lower realm for worthy opponents/see the so called Pirate King be put to death.
It would also not be too crazy if Mihawk turned out to be a child prodigy and during 18/19 eclipsed Nusjuro and or Garling who might have taught him during that time which lead him to seek new ways to grow/feel alive etc
As for why Mihawk would not rest easy in the Holy Land? How about simply not wishing to become the pawn of his parent/creator in the form of Imu? Mihawk wants to be left alone. I doubt that is a luxury that would be afforded to him due to his strength and status if, as I suspect, he is related to Imu/his creation. People act like if Mihawk is Imus child that means he could just kick up his legs and rest easy in the holy land for no reason. Why assume that?
Mihawk being a warlord is one thing. Sengoku and everybody elses reaction to being surprised he even shows up/throws that attack at Whitebeard tells us he barely did his job and was very fickle when it comes to being summoned and then actually appearing for a meeting.
But if he was a Gorosei or Gods Knight? If Imu sent him around the world to deal with issues, or expected him to leader the government?
That is the exact opposite of a calm life Mihawk desires. As for why Mihawk got a bounty, in case anybody wonders, how the fuck would he not with his title beign Marine Hunter?
Its one thing to look the other way on Celestial Dragons rapid/enslaving random civilians, but Mihawk literally got the title Marine Hunter. Imu also hardly seems like thew sentimental type so to them, if their son/clone/whatever gets killed by Marines or bounty hunters? Good riddance since Mihawk in that scenario would clearly have been to weak to be worthy of whatever task they had in mind for him.
Look, people can cope all they like but after Oda gave Kuma the plot relevance he got i don't want to hear to hear this shit about "Mihawk being not important enough" for that sort of reveal okay?
He is the first warlord. Arguably the first Top Tier in the story to ever be revealed with, at the time, hype feats. You can clown on Mihawk and his Marineford status all you like, when he was introduced? Mihawk had more hype than Roger, Shanks, and every other Pirate combined. Oda is not gonna give Mihawk some lame, irrelevant backstory.
He gave fucking Hanafuda a backstory that tied him into the overall plot of the Wano/Kaido story and beyond, and that is a warlord that is not even an actual character in the damn Manga, but he wont tie Mihawk into anything at all? It ain't happening.
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I dont want anything in particular but hands down...it is a solid option still and I can see it being done well if Oda wants to.
I also like the Rayleigh and Shakky theory.
In the end idc and I will let myself get surprised if Oda decides to reveal anything. It's the journey and the theorycrafting afterall that's fun about it.
I also like the Rayleigh and Shakky theory.
In the end idc and I will let myself get surprised if Oda decides to reveal anything. It's the journey and the theorycrafting afterall that's fun about it.
So since we found out Shanks was a Celestial Dragon a couple years ago, some fans have argued that Mihawk could also be a former CD for the sake of a parallel. The argument is basically based on the way he conducts himself, being very elitist and aristocratic in his demeanor and appearance. The guy even lives in a castle.
And Mihawk doesn't really seem like a pirate in like....anything really. He doesn't have a crew, a flag, nor does he show any interest in the pirate lifestyle of adventure and treasure like the OP.
Some people also argue that Mihawk could be a member of the Nerona family due to his eyes
Personally, I don't really agree with this theory because I can't think of a reason why Mihawk would give up his status tbh. While with Shanks we know that he gave up his status as part of hipster phase
Nah but seriously, Shanks decided to not live among CD's because he was too attached to the lower world and the people in it. Unless Mihawk really cares about the monkeys who live on his island, I doubt he has any close bonds. You could maybe argue that he might have moral issues with it, but he's currently working with a guy who got out of jail for trying to kill 1 million people with a bomb after starting a brutal civil war lol. It seems like the guy just wants a peaceful life.
There is of course the possibility of Mihawk having a similar situation to Doffy where his parents gave up their status, but that would just be reusing a plotline.
Personally, I think Mihawk should be from a royal family of a country that was destroyed. This could explain why he's alone, isn't like any other pirate,doesn't trust people,and and has interest in Crocodiles "Operation Utopia"
so, what is the consensus on the forum about Mihawks backstory? Should he be related to the CD's or something else?
And Mihawk doesn't really seem like a pirate in like....anything really. He doesn't have a crew, a flag, nor does he show any interest in the pirate lifestyle of adventure and treasure like the OP.
Some people also argue that Mihawk could be a member of the Nerona family due to his eyes
Nah but seriously, Shanks decided to not live among CD's because he was too attached to the lower world and the people in it. Unless Mihawk really cares about the monkeys who live on his island, I doubt he has any close bonds. You could maybe argue that he might have moral issues with it, but he's currently working with a guy who got out of jail for trying to kill 1 million people with a bomb after starting a brutal civil war lol. It seems like the guy just wants a peaceful life.
There is of course the possibility of Mihawk having a similar situation to Doffy where his parents gave up their status, but that would just be reusing a plotline.
Personally, I think Mihawk should be from a royal family of a country that was destroyed. This could explain why he's alone, isn't like any other pirate,doesn't trust people,and and has interest in Crocodiles "Operation Utopia"
so, what is the consensus on the forum about Mihawks backstory? Should he be related to the CD's or something else?
same eyes, both live in the shadow, both have their own palaces which kinda look similar to each other.
once mihawk starts influencing the marine bounty soon or later in one piece manga he will show more and more similarity with imu.
