General & Others Oda and other mangaka against critics VS Kubo against critics.

Is Kubo the best author among the Big Three Shounen?


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#61
I think he does but I also think Oda has such a high opinion of himself that he genuinely thought that G5 was a genius idea and that everybody would like it.

Now he can lie about that after seeing that some people didn't like it but I'm sure he thought he was being a genius when he came up with that idea.

Now he has no choice but to force it into the story which is not working at all. Nobody ever heard or talked about Nika for more than a 1000 chapters and then suddenly everyone mentions this shitty god out of nowhere.

Fuck G5, fuck Nika and fuck Oda for ruining his own MC.
No, he literally does not care about his audience.
If Oda felt like he wanted to write Shanks twerking, he will do it, he doesn't care about how the community will respond.
https://x.com/sandman_ap/status/1551582031435276288
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
#62
It's actually insane just how many arcs revolve around rescuing someone like a princess or saving a kingdom in One Piece
  • Save Vegapunk from the World Government/CP0
  • Save Wano and kinda princess Hiyori/Yamato from Kaido
  • Save prince Sanji and the Germa Kingdom from Big Mom
  • Save Dressrosa and princess Rebecca from Doflamingo
  • Save princess Shirahoshi and Fishman Island from New Fishman Pirates
  • Save Ace from Impel down and later Marineford
  • Save Luffy's and everyone elses shadows from Moria
  • Save Robin from CP9
  • Save Vivi and Alabasta from Crocodile
  • Save Drum Island from Wapol
  • Save Nami and her village from Arlong
  • Save Zoro from Axehand Morgan
Oda literally force feeds these people the same copy pasted shit and they get on their knees and thank him for it:ihaha:
"Pirate manga"

"Freedom and adventure"

There hasn't been any freedom in his writing since chapter 1. 🥲
 
#63
No, he literally does not care about his audience.
If Oda felt like he wanted to write Shanks twerking, he will do it, he doesn't care about how the community will respond.
https://x.com/sandman_ap/status/1551582031435276288
This actually shows he cares lol.
Trying to to do what no reader expects and go the opposite way means you actually cares about what they think and you are trying hard to show you are better than them.

Which is stupid, he's willing to change his story just because some people predicted his story or writes some shit up because some random dude said it wasn't interesting.
 
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#64
This actually shows he cares lol.
Trying to to do what no reader expects and go tye opposite way means you actually cares about what they think and you are trying hard to show you are better than them.

Which is stupid, he's willing to change his story just because some people predicted his story or writes some shit up because some random dude said it wasn't interesting.
Exactly! Let’s be real here, Oda’s “I don’t care if fans don’t like it” bs is just as insecure as Kubo’s response.
Oda is out here getting heavily involved in the live action series because he wants One Piece to be more popular. He may be at the top in Japan but he’s clearly still concerned about competition overseas.

An author that would change plot points just for the sake of “subverting expectations” is the kind of thing the Game of Thrones series directors were getting called out for.
It’s just putting ego over the quality of your art or product.
 
T
#65
Oda: "get bent, lol"
Kubo: "stop judging my work"
:pepemotion:

If you write a manga for 14 yo boys you should be able to handle it if adults do not like it.
Odas approach is the only correct one.
Ignore and keep going.
 
#66
I don't think the audience's opinion should affect you zero percent but you should still have a backbone to do your thing and not beg forgiveness for it when they don't like it.
When AOT's author started asking for forgiveness for that ending i lost all my respect for him. Yes you did ruin one of my top 5 favorite mangas that i used to rewatch multiple times and had been following for 6-7 years but atleast stand your base and say this was my vision instead of being a bitch.
 
#72
Yessssssssss. I goon to how good the Sasuke Retrieval Arc was and then the banger Naruto vs Sasuke valley of end was soooo peak. Deidara vs Gaara fight *chefs kiss* followed by Sasori who by far most interesting Akatsuki member fought Chiyo and Sakura. Tenchi bridge was mid outside of Naruto vs Orochimaru. That shit was animated insanely. And then Hidan being put in a pack by Shikamaru was PURE AURA Deidara vs Sasuke hella underrated. and then the tale of Jiraiya the gallant, Battle between brothers. The Pain Arc. *Shudders* ppl really glazed OP to be compared to that insane run.

then you add in the OST and the nigh perfect anime adaptation. It’s not even close.
 
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