Powers & Abilities Gaban's mysterious power

D. Plant

D. Plant

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I have been thinking about Gaban and Sanji's power of love for a while and a new found theory pops up in my mind that makes a lot of a sense to me. So I want to show you what I think the power of love is about.

There are 3 things here: Love, Hate, and Desire

Love for creation / Hate is destruction / Desire
(Desire is what Vegapunk told us, inner feeling of wanting something which is tied to emotion. Emotion is what drive the Love and Hate within a person heart.)

We have seen Sanji demonstrated what power of love can do, he blocked S-Shark's punch and Kizaru's laser. These feats are absurd things to do in the sense of common people. But with power of love, Sanji can achieve the impossible as the saying goes 'Love can overcome anything'.

Why it's so rare for people to have this power of love? Well thinking back of what Gloriosa said 'Love is always a hurricane'. It's chaotic nature makes people fear of losing themselves inside this illogical structure. We saw how Hancock lost herself in love even felt sick when Luffy isn't around. Therefore only a few people are able to control it like Gaban and Sanji.

So Love for creation consists of illogical/defy physics/chaotic properties. How does it even works against God Knight's immortality power? I think the reason is simple.

God Knights' body is indestructible, power like haki and devil fruits cannot damage them. Why haki cannot damage them? haki is a form of energy inside the body, normally is not visible but with desire it can be concentrated on certain part of the body. The desire of hate is the driving force of haki. Usually we see the characters using haki is to destroy the enemy and they do it in serious manner. To destroy the opponent is some form of hate.

In opposite to hate driven haki, what Gaban showed us is haki driven by love. Like I have explained Love is creation/illogical/defy physics/ chaotic. I think the way to damage God Knight is illogical love driven haki. This part might be a stretch here. I think Gaban makes Sommer's body into true form. Similar thing we saw on Egghead, Gorosei's body is somehow 'solid' compare to the 'gas-like' regeneration. Also I think God Knight's immortality/black magic/pentagon might be a hatred power, that's why love driven haki can damage them. Another saying goes 'love can overcome hatred'.

Why hate driven haki can damage logia user? The reason I can think of is logia is a type of creation power, positive + negative = negative.

Hate driven haki can damage logia user like Kizaru, but with love drive haki you can negate it's ability like blocking Kizaru's laser.

Another example is the giants said Shanks CoC blast felt threatening even to the allies compared to Joyboy's CoC blast doesn't hurt them at all.

What do you guys think? Do it in anyway makes sense to you or it is complete nonsense.
 
moreha9685

moreha9685

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There aren't three things. There are only two.
Will and emotions.
Brain/personality and heart/soul/kokoro.
Someone with a strong will can bend others to his whim, even if they have negative intentions. This is why anybody can have CoC, from Doffy to Akainu to IMU.
But only those who care to protect others get access to this alternative power, the "fire of passion" that animates Sanji's attacks for example, that bypasses normal haki because while haki can be selfish and articulated by the user's intellect into "I want this because--", "I want that so--", PoL is the direct manifestation of one's emotion, and therefore unclouded by judgment.
It's the nakama power actually weaponized. It's what Oda's been telling us from the beginning: No matter how many times Luffy shouts that he will become Pirate King (will = haki), he will only succeed in doing so thanks to his crew and the bond formed between them (love/friendship = nakama power = PoL).
CoO, CoA, CoC are only half of the equation.
You only need a pure kokoro aimed at helping others to change the world.
Strongest CoC + purest PoL (a love for the entire world = Luffy's speculated secret dream of wanting to party with everybody) = Pirate King Supreme
 
D. Plant

D. Plant

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moreha9685 said:
There aren't three things. There are only two.
Will and emotions.
Brain/personality and heart/soul/kokoro.
Someone with a strong will can bend others to his whim, even if they have negative intentions. This is why anybody can have CoC, from Doffy to Akainu to IMU.
But only those who care to protect others get access to this alternative power, the "fire of passion" that animates Sanji's attacks for example, that bypasses normal haki because while haki can be selfish and articulated by the user's intellect into "I want this because--", "I want that so--", PoL is the direct manifestation of one's emotion, and therefore unclouded by judgment.
It's the nakama power actually weaponized. It's what Oda's been telling us from the beginning: No matter how many times Luffy shouts that he will become Pirate King (will = haki), he will only succeed in doing so thanks to his crew and the bond formed between them (love/friendship = nakama power = PoL).
CoO, CoA, CoC are only half of the equation.
You only need a pure kokoro aimed at helping others to change the world.
Strongest CoC + purest PoL (a love for the entire world = Luffy's speculated secret dream of wanting to party with everybody) = Pirate King Supreme
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I know you are upset because there isn't a single picture in my post, it's just a wall of text.
 
matt245

matt245

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#5
I can already see Oda acting like the power of love is only some bs that Lanji and Fraudban spout every once in a while with pretty much 0 real repercussions
 
vikas

vikas

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Its actually not a mysterious power, only those who are blood related to those with that regen ability can damage them..that was the contract....Gaban and Sommers are twins so it worked...
Gunko and Bonney are related so she will defeat him...
We get to know Sanji is related to that Girraffe.... or maybe ussop.
 
D. Plant

D. Plant

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matt245 said:
I can already see Oda acting like the power of love is only some bs that Lanji and Fraudban spout every once in a while with pretty much 0 real repercussions
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PoL is one of the highest form of haki, it makes sense that the power is outrageous. Unless Oda introduce a new form of haki to counter it., it will be Rocks flash back or when Blackbeard actually enter the final stage.
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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I like the idea/process, but i simply don't think it applies that way on OPVerse,
I think People are forgetting something very Important,
Gaban didn't Disable or Change their Zombified Bodies,

Gorosei/Holy Knights Bodies were never Immune to Damage, and They were shown to have Blood,
It's just that They feel No Pain + Unlimited Regeneration,

Sommers still didn't feel Pain against Gaban nor his Body changed, as indicated by his Reaction to his Severed Arm,
And He even questioned it "Why isn't it Healing?" meaning if the Source of his Healing was from his own Body, He would have known that it's not in a State in which it can Heal itself,

Everything indicates that it's not them who Heal themselves, Source of their Regeneration comes from somewhere else,
And this is Similar to Kata's Case, didn't Luffy discover that Source of his Intangibility & Future Sight are actually one & the same,
Oda is repeating same Trick here, those Abyss Portals are actually what keeps them Immortal,

It's like imagine instead of Teleporting an entire Person, you only Teleport Body Parts to replace whatever was Lost,
Imagine if like you remove Kuma's Head, and because He has that Abyss Mark on him, He will simply instantly receive a Head Replacement from another Pacifista, that's literally what Gorosei/Holy Knights are doing, and it was recently teased by Vegapunk,

It's just Science, and it's just a Clones Trick, this makes their Invincibility looks similar to Logias or Perona or Hawkins or Marco ... etc
And to Counter it, you simply need to Jam the Connection They have with Abyss or whatever Fuels it,
This is why Sommers was puzzled on why his Hand didn't Regenerate, He is like "Why didn't They send a New Hand?"

And to Jam such a Signal, you simply need Advanced CoO, you need to disrupt their Signal with your Own.
How can the Abyss send them New Body Parts if They are Disconnected & it doesn't know where They are?
That's simply what happened
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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#13
I feel like PoL is going to relate to whoever was being alluded to in the mural “People of the Moon” and “People of the Half Moon” maybe descendents of those two groups are the ones capable of using whatever PoL is going to be actually called.
 
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