Speculations Garling and Venus will be Sanji and Zoro's opponents
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Oda set up 3 fights in Egghead.
Luffy vs Topman (only gorosei he couldn't hurt)
Zoro vs Nasjuro (sword clash)
Sanji vs Kizaru (Only character to break Kizaru's Laser)
Sanji's Gorosei opponent wasn't on Egghead hence minimal interaction with all 5 of them.
Oda would've had Sanji at least kick Ju Peter, like he did Nasjuro if that was his future End of manga fight.
Similar situation with Mars, neither Sanji nor Franky stood out in that combo attack, if he was a future fight for him he would've played a bigger role.
That's why I'm going with Figarland for now. He is also now "God of Science" which can't be a coincidence as Sanji is "Warrior of Science".
Luffy vs Topman (only gorosei he couldn't hurt)
Zoro vs Nasjuro (sword clash)
Sanji vs Kizaru (Only character to break Kizaru's Laser)
Sanji's Gorosei opponent wasn't on Egghead hence minimal interaction with all 5 of them.
Oda would've had Sanji at least kick Ju Peter, like he did Nasjuro if that was his future End of manga fight.
Similar situation with Mars, neither Sanji nor Franky stood out in that combo attack, if he was a future fight for him he would've played a bigger role.
That's why I'm going with Figarland for now. He is also now "God of Science" which can't be a coincidence as Sanji is "Warrior of Science".
People didn't learn their lesson after wano and egghead.
Can't imagine being retarded enough to think these 2 irrelevant fodders would fighting against important characters like gorosei
Can't imagine being retarded enough to think these 2 irrelevant fodders would fighting against important characters like gorosei
Zoro clashed swords with that same one.
This arc they will learn to bypass immortality.
The real question is are Gorosei strong enough to fight Sanji and Zoro by Eos or will Oda have to come up with 2 stronger antagonists?
Clashes are irrelevant when it comes to setup of fights.
Sanji clashed with King in wano, yet his main fight was Queen. Zoro clashed with Fujitora in DR but his main fight was Pica.
I don't consider Gorosei to be strong at all. The only thing that makes them even remotely close to a top tier is the immortality hax thanks to Imu. For me they are commander level trash without hax.
The question has never been about strength, it's about the importance of characters. Zoro and Sanji have never fought any narratively important character. Gorosei are probably the most important character after Imu in the WG. These kinds of important guys will not be feeded to irrelevant bums like zoro and sanji
Which Yonko did he defeat?
We're talking about proper 1v1 fight and defeats
Sanji clashed with King in wano, yet his main fight was Queen. Zoro clashed with Fujitora in DR but his main fight was Pica.
I don't consider Gorosei to be strong at all. The only thing that makes them even remotely close to a top tier is the immortality hax thanks to Imu. For me they are commander level trash without hax.
The question has never been about strength, it's about the importance of characters. Zoro and Sanji have never fought any narratively important character. Gorosei are probably the most important character after Imu in the WG. These kinds of important guys will not be feeded to irrelevant bums like zoro and sanji
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Which Yonko did he defeat?
We're talking about proper 1v1 fight and defeats
Sanji and Zoro always beat the right and left hand of the antagonists/ 2 strongest henchman.
If Imu's top 2 are Gorosei, then Sanji and Zoro fight Gorosei. If it's 2 HK/admirals, then they fight HK/admirals. That formula won't change.
Also, each individual gorosei doesn't seem super important. Saturn just died and nothing changed. Imu can literally make new ones if they all died.
If Imu's top 2 are Gorosei, then Sanji and Zoro fight Gorosei. If it's 2 HK/admirals, then they fight HK/admirals. That formula won't change.
Also, each individual gorosei doesn't seem super important. Saturn just died and nothing changed. Imu can literally make new ones if they all died.
There is no right/left hand man of Imu. That idiotic logic of no. 2 and 3 has never been concrete. In the entirety of post-ts that shit has happened only once. And pre-ts it happened 2 times. Get that bs made up pattern out of your head
All Gorosei have equal status in Imu's eyes. Had someone else gone to EH before saturn, they would have suffered the same fate.
It's not about rhe individual gorosei, it's about their status as collective and their role in the overall downfall of WG.
All Gorosei have equal status in Imu's eyes. Had someone else gone to EH before saturn, they would have suffered the same fate.
It's not about rhe individual gorosei, it's about their status as collective and their role in the overall downfall of WG.
I’ve said this several times already but Garling feels like the odd one out of the Gorosei & a character Oda’s written into the story to fulfill a particular purpose so it’s unlikely that he goes down in the same vein as your regular antagonist subordinate.
Even Dragon v Garling looks very unlikely to me. Don’t think it’s as simple as he’s the strongest of the Gorosei hence he obviously fights the leader are of the Revos. He has a bit too much build up & plot weight to be Dragon’s opponent.
So my guess is that he either goes to Luffy or Teach, and falls a bit earlier than the others. In which case I wonder if folks would still have him as the strongest Gorosei
In a recent stream Morj did he made a comment about how Oda typically hypes Villians to make it feel like they are the pick of the lot just so it’s exciting in the moment & then after they have fulfilled their purpose it becomes evident that there are bigger fish in the pond and I think Oda’s doing exactly that with Garling here.
Also can't believe that in 2025, folks are still making arguments like Sanji is too weak to fight a Gorosei or that he would fight an opponent a whole rank below Zoro. Can you lot even read? Coz a this point we gotta start asking these questions.
I mean I'm used to it at this point but it's mad weird that we go on this asinine merry go round every single time some new powerful antagonists appear. Surely if you don't rate Sanji there are better arguments that can be made against him as opposed to this tired bottom of the barrel shit time and time again. You're better of arguing the Gorosei's numbers or Ju Peter as an opponet for Sanji to push Zoro's stock up as opposed to this nonsense time and time again.
Even Dragon v Garling looks very unlikely to me. Don’t think it’s as simple as he’s the strongest of the Gorosei hence he obviously fights the leader are of the Revos. He has a bit too much build up & plot weight to be Dragon’s opponent.
So my guess is that he either goes to Luffy or Teach, and falls a bit earlier than the others. In which case I wonder if folks would still have him as the strongest Gorosei
In a recent stream Morj did he made a comment about how Oda typically hypes Villians to make it feel like they are the pick of the lot just so it’s exciting in the moment & then after they have fulfilled their purpose it becomes evident that there are bigger fish in the pond and I think Oda’s doing exactly that with Garling here.
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Also can't believe that in 2025, folks are still making arguments like Sanji is too weak to fight a Gorosei or that he would fight an opponent a whole rank below Zoro. Can you lot even read? Coz a this point we gotta start asking these questions.
I mean I'm used to it at this point but it's mad weird that we go on this asinine merry go round every single time some new powerful antagonists appear. Surely if you don't rate Sanji there are better arguments that can be made against him as opposed to this tired bottom of the barrel shit time and time again. You're better of arguing the Gorosei's numbers or Ju Peter as an opponet for Sanji to push Zoro's stock up as opposed to this nonsense time and time again.
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