General & Others Removing Luffy & Big Mom but adding Current Law and Zoro can the Alliance win at Wano.
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Throughout Wano we are shown on several occasions that Zoro nitoryu > All out Luffy. Against Hawkins, against Apoo, against randoms, on onigashima and on the roof. Then, after 2 characters obtain their respective PUs, we cannot compare them correctly because Luffy faced an already very injured and exhausted Kaido and Zoro faced King. In addition, they showed Zoro very few KOH movements and only one episode. So it is more fair and reliable to compare them before the PU and they clearly make it clear to us that Zoro >>> Luffy. Don't make me bring you the images.
there was no sizeable difference shown in BMs or Kaidos durability. even Filler canonically harmed Kaido.
its also not even a requirement to hurt Kaido to end the fight. all Luffy had to do was push him into the magma.
its obvious though that you are not looking for a reasonable argument. you already made up your mind and discard everything else.
its also not even a requirement to hurt Kaido to end the fight. all Luffy had to do was push him into the magma.
its obvious though that you are not looking for a reasonable argument. you already made up your mind and discard everything else.
Luffy knocked Kaido out. Kaido was knocked out before he hit the lava pool. If you don’t believe me go read it again.
I’m looking for the most likely victor and it’s Kaido. He can’t be moved by Law but has FS and has been shown to be able to blitz Law before he can react. He has the AP to put everyone done with his flame dragon drum.
You can try conjuring a scenario where the SUpernova win but it’s less likely to happen.
I’m looking for the most likely victor and it’s Kaido. He can’t be moved by Law but has FS and has been shown to be able to blitz Law before he can react. He has the AP to put everyone done with his flame dragon drum.
You can try conjuring a scenario where the SUpernova win but it’s less likely to happen.
Kaido has also been blitzing Luffy. Until that magically stopped.
Its funny how you believe that Luffy can go from being absolutely bodied by a base move of Kaido in a 1xX to end up fighting him on more or less equal terms in a 1v1, but somehow Law can not. Or Zoro. Or Kidd. This is where you heavy bias comes in.
Its unimportant whether Kaido got knocked out or not. BM was also not knocked out and lost.
This is some damn stupid Luffy fan power trip and nothing else.
Reality check: Luffy was at the mercy of Kizaru and had to be force fed to even survive
Its funny how you believe that Luffy can go from being absolutely bodied by a base move of Kaido in a 1xX to end up fighting him on more or less equal terms in a 1v1, but somehow Law can not. Or Zoro. Or Kidd. This is where you heavy bias comes in.
Its unimportant whether Kaido got knocked out or not. BM was also not knocked out and lost.
This is some damn stupid Luffy fan power trip and nothing else.
Reality check: Luffy was at the mercy of Kizaru and had to be force fed to even survive
It stopped after Luffy trained tf are you talking about. Luffy got multiple power ups. It didn’t magically stop. Luffy was using FS which has been stated to be disrupted if you aren’t thinking clearly like when he thought his crew was killed by Kaido.
I’m just giving you facts that you don’t like and you can’t dispute them.
I’m just giving you facts that you don’t like and you can’t dispute them.
There is a panel from roof top where Luffy complains that he got tagged even with FS.
You have multiple Bagua hits (no matter what version). You also got Law saving Luffys ass with shambles so he does not get blitzed again.
This is the reality.
Later in the fight on roof top Luffy magically started dodging moves that pushed his shit in just moments ago.
Somehow this is a Luffy exclusive feature and no other character can have any sort of mid fight progression that turns a one sided stomp into a winnable fight. Because reasons.
You have multiple Bagua hits (no matter what version). You also got Law saving Luffys ass with shambles so he does not get blitzed again.
This is the reality.
Later in the fight on roof top Luffy magically started dodging moves that pushed his shit in just moments ago.
Somehow this is a Luffy exclusive feature and no other character can have any sort of mid fight progression that turns a one sided stomp into a winnable fight. Because reasons.