Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1150 Spoilers Discussion

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Give me one person he sliced in half
King? Not sliced in half
Lucci? Not sliced in half
Kaido? Just a paper cut
Sanji is faster, more durable by a mile, can heal
Zolo couldn't knock down Lucci and Sanji is far more durable than that bum

Obviously Oda can't draw him dismembering people in such a gory way like that, lol, but we have seen characters slice off other characters' arms and what not, stands to reason he could do that if Oda's not restricting that stuff.
Sanji IS faster, but not by so much that he'll be able to blitz Zoro completely. He's only that much faster when it comes to traveling speed and what not.

 

[Sentinel]

Who canonically is above tobirama?

He was canonically put above Hashirama and we both know that's far from the truth lol

 

[Roo]

So what are your alternatives
Would you have been happier if the Uchiha pulled a coup, and another great ninja war started leading to the death of millions
That would've been a sure result if the Uchiha were kept unchecked
Hiruzen tried to solve matters peacefully but he failed
Danzo was left with a heavy decision
Sacrifice shinobi world, or the Uchiha clan who were on the verge of committing a world war
Madara tax and the attack on the Konoha only made this decision simpler
Not that Danzo is a saint, he's a scumbag for countless reasons (Kabuto's flashback and what he did to Shusui are better examples of why Danzo is brutal merciless SoB).
The Uchiha massacre is a trolley problem
A weak leader like Hiruzen would've done nothing to stop the war from unfolding
A decisive leader like Danzo can't leave things upto fate, he had to take things into his own hands

@TheAncientCenturion

I’d be happy with what Kishi told us

If people weren’t prejudiced against the Uchiha since the early days none of this would’ve happened

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Obviously Oda can't draw him dismembering people in such a gory way like that, lol, but we have seen characters slice off other characters' arms and what not, stands to reason he could do that if Oda's not restricting that stuff.
Sanji IS faster, but not by so much that he'll be able to blitz Zoro completely. He's only that much faster when it comes to traveling speed and what not.

Sanji uses shoot style, his traveling speed is the speed of many of his kicks

 

[Roo]

He was canonically put above Hashirama and we both know that's far from the truth lol

Yeah, you can argue that with Hashirama not with Tobirama.

Post Hashi retcon Hiruzen was still getting scaled above Tobirama in the data books

 

[Sentinel]

I’d be happy with what Kishi told us

If people weren’t prejudiced against the Uchiha since the early days none of this would’ve happened

That's also the reason why the Uchiha were enraged because they were constantly monitored by the higher ups, throwing around accusations that they controlled Kurama during the attack.
I do get why Uchiha clan felt threatened enough to resort to such methods such as a rebellion.

 

[Roo]

Weaker than no Sharingan Kakashi?

Kakashi is actually super gassed in the novels. Apparently he’s country level and his purple lighting is faster than light or something

 

[The Legend]

Nah him scarring Kaido

"Scarring Kaido"

 

[soupongo]

This is what peak fiction looks like @TheAncientCenturion @MarineHQ @soupongo @ZenZu

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unironically agree. The five Kage summit was a great refresher after dealing with the Rinnegan brat

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Yes. Zoro called lasers completely unblockable. Zoro has no defense against it by his own volition.

Lucci and King are magnitudes slower than Sanji who performs speed feats on par with Kizaru.

Prolonged use of King of Hell still risks Zoros life because his Haki is still being drained rapidly.

And Zoro can’t cut Sanji in half. Dude couldn’t even cut No Flame King in half lmao

King's head isn't even close to a fucking laser, what are you doing man? He just said it's like one because of it's absurd speed and power.

Sanji isn't nearly as fast as Kizaru. I dont even know where that one came from because Kizaru has the top 3 or 2 best speed feats in the verse so far.

True, but Zoro doesn't need KoH that long for Sanji.

And again, this is just a matter of Oda not wanting to show that in the manga (and also wanting to keep certain characters alive for future events). But even then we still saw stuff like Lucci getting utterly shredded by him.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kakashi is actually super gassed in the novels. Apparently he’s country level and his purple lighting is faster than light or something

Never read the novels that’s insane damn.

 

[Alarica]

Hol up. Which Bible ?

Wdm which Bible? Ehm canon scriptions that contain 66 books from the first book the Genesis to the last one the Revelation( also known as Apocalypsis).

 

[Sentinel]

Kakashi is actually super gassed in the novels. Apparently he’s country level and his purple lighting is faster than light or something

Databooks also tend to blow things out of proportions. Iirc, the databook stated Temari can wipe out the universe and Kurama's bijuu dama blows up the planet, lol.

Idk about the novels. Are they not non canon?

 

[MarineHQ]

The way Danzo was handled was such a letdown. After Madara he was the most teased character. He deserved a full arc before the Kage summit.

 

[soupongo]

Databooks also tend to blow things out of proportions. Iirc, the databook stated Temari can wipe out the universe and Kurama's bijuu dama blows up the planet, lol.

Idk about the novels. Are they not non canon?

no(yes)

 

[Roo]

Databooks also tend to blow things out of proportions. Iirc, the databook stated Temari can wipe out the universe and Kurama's bijuu dama blows up the planet, lol.

Idk about the novels. Are they not non canon?

They’re supervised by Kishi so

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I think it’s very likely all the HKs and Gorosei have demon forms like Dorry and Brogy.

The gorosei’s forms are zoan powers. They have hybrid and full beast modes plus the black flame.

the demon form is something different, it is Imu’s own power

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

>Databooks

lol say you ain’t a Naruto fan, we love the Databooks.

The problem with the excuse argument is that Itachi didn't do it with Kakashi, this is because he and Kisame genuinely saw Jiraiya as above them,with Kisame agreeing that Itachi wasnt really going to win(though together they do win

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He calls it off because of some ANBU. The same ANBU Kabuto neg diffed and coyly asked for “at least ten” to Kakashi’s face.

Kakashi was a kid to them lol. Orochimaru neg diffs Kakashi with killing intent

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Jiraiya’s a Kage level Shinobi and a convenient excuse to leave—like earlier, Itachi is able to retreat before they hurt Konoha even further and Kisame accepts this.

Same is true wrt pain btw. He never says that if Kakashi knew his secret Kakashi could beat him, this is because Kakashi couldn't kill him even if he did know all of Pains secrets, Jiraiya genuinely could

?? Okay? Jiraiya was actually working towards figuring the secret out and has the capabilities to work on it. Kakashi is a stranger to Pain, they met two minutes before fighting and was decisively beaten. Jiraiya sent an encrypted message out and was Nagato’s teacher. Not even the same scenario

And yes, Kisame isn't a coward or anything, he's extremely loyal obviously, but going in situations where you aren't sure isn't how Shinobi are supposed to act

He single handedly hunts down KillerBee, perfect Jinchuuriki. A rampaging brainless (weaker) 4T Naruto nearly kills Jiraiya by his own words.

His plan is to intentionally lose this fight too lol. Kisame is no idiot and is comfortable taking on far stronger Shinobi than Jiraiya. They retreated because Itachi wanted to retreat.

 

[SakazOuki]

I’d be happy with what Kishi told us

If people weren’t prejudiced against the Uchiha since the early days none of this would’ve happened

You strayed away from the discussion, that's an entirely different matter, we're talking about Danzo's decision

Anyway
As Tobirama explained it, the Uchiha feel love far greater than normal people, and when their emotions get tainted it their eyes respond to the trauma and they receive greater power to enact vengeance. Tobirama was fearful of the Uchiha but he didn't do anything drastic, all he did was propose a democratic vote for the Hokage seat. Madara as paranoid as he was immediately saw that as an open declaration of war, the hate filled his heart so quickly he started envisioning Tsukuyomi as the solution to the world's problems.

Tobirama then tried to slowly shift Uchiha's loyalty towards the village instead of the clan, as he did with all other clans. He did understand that the Uchiha power can be used for good and evil, but there was nothing he could do to ensure the future generations maintain their steadiness.

The world doesn't revolve around the Uchiha
Senju are by no means racist, the Uchiha for decades lived peacefully and did their task for the sake of the village, all was going well
Though I guess, Hiruzen is to blame for allowing the paranoid Danzo this much control
It all boils down to this basically, Hiruzen being incompetent, Danzo being paranoid, Uchiha being a cursed clan

 

[HA001]

I keep seeing these one piece ai trailers on YouTube. They crazy