Powers & Abilities Let’s Settle this: Will Oda Give Sanji Conquerors Haki?

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I still don't think he will get it. Scopper having it doesn't mean Sanji will. That said, I still see him becoming a very solid top tier above Roger at the end.

For example, I don't think Kuzan has it, but he was still matching Garp's ACoC by combining CoA with ice. I think it will be somewhat similar for Sanji. Fire + Exoskeleton + CoA + Speed is already very strong and some of these can improve.
 
I still don't think he will get it. Scopper having it doesn't mean Sanji will. That said, I still see him becoming a very solid top tier above Roger at the end.

For example, I don't think Kuzan has it, but he was still matching Garp's ACoC by combining CoA with ice. I think it will be somewhat similar for Sanji. Fire + Exoskeleton + CoA + Speed is already very strong and some of these can improve.
It’s also about the SHP surpassing all other crews. Luffy won’t have less conquerors than the four that Roger had. I doubt he’ll have less than roxs crew which had 5
 
Don’t think so tbh, but I won’t mind if he got it
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I actually like this point. Oda may not see the need of giving Sanji CoC since he is a genetically modified human so it makes up for it to some extent.
The thing is Oda didn't give Gaban CoC because he needed it, he gave it to him because he's Sanji's parallel. For the same reason, it was very obvious Zoro was gonna get CoC ever since Sabaody, but a lot of people denied it. Personally, I knew and repeatedly said he'd get it in Wano, years before Wano arc even started.

Rayleigh and Gaban, just like Roger, are only important because they represent even more important characters whom the story focuses on. Whatever they're capable of doing, they're capable of doing only to show us where Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are heading because they're the actual main characters.

First, people were saying Rayleigh having CoC didn't mean Zoro would get it and it backfired. Then people said Rayleigh having CoC didn't mean Gaban would have it and it backfired again. How many times do people have to be wrong to learn their lesson and see what Oda is putting in plain sight right in front of them? :suresure:
 
Lmao never in a million years. No amount of creating fake parallels with different characters, or leeching from Zoro, will make 5anji a Conqueror. That's why Oda created the whole, cyborg soldier with free will nonsense for him.

Germa and spinning on the spot gimmick for him always :suresure:
 
Lmao never in a million years. No amount of creating fake parallels with different characters, or leeching from Zoro, will make 5anji a Conqueror. That's why Oda created the whole, cyborg soldier with free will nonsense for him.

Germa and spinning on the spot gimmick for him always :suresure:
Exoskeleton doesn't really make a you a cyborg though, more like bio engineered human chimera.
 
Lmao never in a million years. No amount of creating fake parallels with different characters, or leeching from Zoro, will make 5anji a Conqueror. That's why Oda created the whole, cyborg soldier with free will nonsense for him.

Germa and spinning on the spot gimmick for him always :suresure:
Gathering another L, my man
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Could happen sooner than expected. If Imu tries to possess Sanji and force him to hit Nami, Robin or Gerd, maybe that's when he'll unlock CoC.
 
Is there any Sanji fans that realize Sanji not having CoC is more impressive than him having it? 🙄

Being able to be very close to Zoro while having no ACoC let alone CoC is a superb showing.

Being able to be this strong with only human effort (him+family) while others needing heaven's blessing (CoC) is admirable.
 
Is there any Sanji fans that realize Sanji not having CoC is more impressive than him having it? 🙄

Being able to be very close to Zoro while having no ACoC let alone CoC is a superb showing.

Being able to be this strong with only human effort (him+family) while others needing heaven's blessing (CoC) is admirable.
That's beside the point. Whether Sanji fans think it's better to not give him CoC or not, it doesn't change the fact it's pretty clear Oda is planning to give it to him. It's not like it's for us to decide if he's gonna have it.
 
Lmao never in a million years. No amount of creating fake parallels with different characters, or leeching from Zoro, will make 5anji a Conqueror. That's why Oda created the whole, cyborg soldier with free will nonsense for him.

Germa and spinning on the spot gimmick for him always :suresure:
You gotta to update your sig :risisure:
 
This keeps coming up but nobody seems to be making the argument for what one has to do with the other, or why it matters.
Same as no one explains how Gabum feats rub off to Sanji.
Luffy is not Roger, Zoro is not Rayleigh.
Zoro would even have more in common with Roger than Luffy, but people draw parallels anyways because hes the captain.
Also all swordsmen are below EoS Zoro by default.
 
Same as no one explains how Gabum feats rub off to Sanji.
I did give an explanation for that, see post #443. Of course you can disagree, but you can't just ignore that and claim no one tried to explain.

Luffy is not Roger, Zoro is not Rayleigh.
Zoro would even have more in common with Roger than Luffy, but people draw parallels anyways because hes the captain.
Also all swordsmen are below EoS Zoro by default.
What do they have in common, besides being swordsmen and DFless? Roger and Luffy have way more things in common:

Both Ds
Both captains
Both Pirate Kings
Both can hear the VOAT
Both have two extremely powerful "wings"
Both wore the Straw Hat

Parallels aren't just about fighting style.
 
Nah



People aren't aware that we've known Zoro was going to have a coc long before we were introduced to Rayleigh. Just seeing his ambition, determination and dream, we already knew he would have coc
 
Nah



People aren't aware that we've known Zoro was going to have a coc long before we were introduced to Rayleigh. Just seeing his ambition, determination and dream, we already knew he would have coc
I mean, this isn’t true, it was only at Rayleigh’s introduction that we started to have any idea what the hell CoC even was. Before that it was just some strange thing that Shanks had done when he went to Whitebeard’s ship (which wasn’t really translated right at the time), and that Luffy seemed to have done it against Duval’s bull.
 
I mean, this isn’t true, it was only at Rayleigh’s introduction that we started to have any idea what the hell CoC even was. Before that it was just some strange thing that Shanks had done when he went to Whitebeard’s ship (which wasn’t really translated right at the time), and that Luffy seemed to have done it against Duval’s bull.
We are explained the qualities that must be had for someone to possess the conqueror's haki. And that's why it was known before the time jump that Zoro would have it. Whether Ray had it or not has nothing to do with it.
And now they are here repeating that the pedophile cook will have coc because another old character has it lol xD. I don't know what mania they have with this manga of trying to relate, match or equate everything from the old era with the current one.

Ray was not the most powerful swordsman in the world, Zoro will be. Ray didn't manage to turn a sword into Kokuto, Zoro will, etc.
 
We are explained the qualities that must be had for someone to possess the conqueror's haki. And that's why it was known before the time jump that Zoro would have it. Whether Ray had it or not has nothing to do with it.
And now they are here repeating that the pedophile cook will have coc because another old character has it lol xD. I don't know what mania they have with this manga of trying to relate, match or equate everything from the old era with the current one.

Ray was not the most powerful swordsman in the world, Zoro will be. Ray didn't manage to turn a sword into Kokuto, Zoro will, etc.
If you want to invalidate that point, you gotta mention what Rayleigh has that Zoro doesn't, not the other way around. Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are the main characters and they're meant to surpass the old gen, that doesn't mean Roger, Rayleigh and Gaban aren't their parallels.

Going as far as calling Sanji a pedophile not only hurts your own credibility but also suggests you're being disingenuous on purpose.
 
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