Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1151 Spoilers Discussion

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kekaro

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Blackbeard said:
I get where you’re coming from, but it’s way too early to judge their fruits as weak. They’re clearly being set up as mirrors to the Strawhats, and Oda is deliberately holding back on showing how broken their powers really are.

Pizarro's fruit on paper sounds completely absurd. He can merge with an entire island and manipulate its terrain. That kind of control has massive destructive potential, especially in the right environment. but think about how tempting it would be for Oda to scale this up. What if he can merge with other major landmasses? Mary Geoise? Or The Red Line itself, or the Reverse Mountain?

What if Sanji finds the All Blue by obliterating Reverse Mountain-merged Pizarro with Black Jambe?

I always thought of Pizarro as someone like Gerard Valkyre from Bleach. An antagonist subordinate that starts the fight unsuspiciously normal but grows exponentially in strength through a ridiculous gimmick.

Shiryu and Pizarro will be shown superior to the wings when the narrative demands.

The rest of the crew will deliberately not be that strong because the remaining SHs are seemingly trash lol.
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Yeah but even if I would agree with that setup that would factor in a lot of plotconveniece you know? Like BB had a vision that he need the fruit that at one point gonna merge with the redline to fight my idolo snaji?

Same with the other fruits. My only explanation is he chose the fruits deliberately to execute a specific plan he needs all their abilities for but than again he seems to be pretty straightforward with his crew and I don't know if they would eat a shit fruit to just fulfill bbs Ambition

I guess we will see but so far I'm not convinced, like it's not only that they are "weak" I find beside augurs and I guess depending on the circumstances pizalos extremely boring. That's like the 4rd invisible opponent and one of them just gets bigger and stuff like that which is just boring to me visually


We will see I guess hopefully oda is cooking something
 
Topi Jerami

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Blackbeard said:
I get where you’re coming from, but it’s way too early to judge their fruits as weak. They’re clearly being set up as mirrors to the Strawhats, and Oda is deliberately holding back on showing how broken their powers really are.

Pizarro's fruit on paper sounds completely absurd. He can merge with an entire island and manipulate its terrain. That kind of control has massive destructive potential, especially in the right environment. but think about how tempting it would be for Oda to scale this up. What if he can merge with other major landmasses? Mary Geoise? Or The Red Line itself, or the Reverse Mountain?

What if Sanji finds the All Blue by obliterating Reverse Mountain-merged Pizarro with Black Jambe?

I always thought of Pizarro as someone like Gerard Valkyre from Bleach. An antagonist subordinate that starts the fight unsuspiciously normal but grows exponentially in strength through a ridiculous gimmick.

Shiryu and Pizarro will be shown superior to the wings when the narrative demands.

The rest of the crew will deliberately not be that strong because the remaining SHs are seemingly trash lol.
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Sir Yasheen said:
Shiryu and Lafitte*
Pizarro may be in BBs inner circle, but Blackbeards left hand man is Lafitte.
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*Shiryu and Aokiji

Clowns keep separating Aokiji from the group
 
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SakazOuki said:
Latrines and their 3 brain cells are unable to understand why Zoro defeating Kizaru is the most logical conclusion that a sane reader could take.

It's not about downplaying Kizaru or overhyping Zoro, it's about Zoro surpassing Kizaru before he reaches Mihawk's level and him cutting even light. Zoro always faces the 2nd strongest opponent and Luffy is facing Saturn who is > Kizaru (you can't deny that anymore).

In terms of strength, the arc villains rank as follow: Saturn > Kizaru > Lucci (Luffy > Zoro > Sanji).

Sanji stopped Kizaru's laser and it seems that he will face Kizaru temporarily.
Sanji will fight Kizaru who will be a good match up for him in terms of speed but it's not his main fight.
Zoro is currently facing Lucci but he is stalling him and not taking him seriously (2 swords, no bandana...).
Jinbe went to get Zoro so it means the fight will be interrupted.

Zoro stalling Lucci is reflecting that this fight is not his primary fight.

Sanji and Zoro will switch opponents like they did in Wano (Sanji faced King then faced Queen).
Sanji is a better matchup for Lucci than Zoro (leg vs leg, better durability and exoskeleton).
Zoro is a better matchup for Kizaru than Sanji (Kizaru has been mainly fighting with his light sword).

Zoro will get his moment against Kizaru, that's what the whole arc is setting up.
Zoro will defeat Kizaru in Egghead, which will mirror Kizaru knocking Zoro out in Sabaody.
Zoro the "King of Hell" will clash with Kizaru's lightsword, like Rayleigh the "Silver King" in Sabaody.

Zoro will cut "light".

Zoro fighting Kizaru goes even beyond that. Zoro has to channel his energy to cut light and that makes him more likely to get black blade in the future. Zoro can't just go and land an attack like "Divine Departure" because the cut is not clean and it will not cut light, it will only cut Kizaru. So, he has to learn how to channel that blade energy to make a clean cut on light.

Kizaru's awakening may make him fuse with the light element and him becoming literally light. Zoro may need to learn how to cut light, like Sanji managed to stop a laser that was pure light. That will be the challenge.

You do you though, keep doing this circle jerking that you call "admiral agenda" and keep calling the sane readers who bring up better arguments than you guys do "deluded".
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Optimal copypasta material

Also, Silver King? The dude didnt even get the epithet right
 
Rumble

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SakazOuki said:
Latrines and their 3 brain cells are unable to understand why Zoro defeating Kizaru is the most logical conclusion that a sane reader could take.

It's not about downplaying Kizaru or overhyping Zoro, it's about Zoro surpassing Kizaru before he reaches Mihawk's level and him cutting even light. Zoro always faces the 2nd strongest opponent and Luffy is facing Saturn who is > Kizaru (you can't deny that anymore).

In terms of strength, the arc villains rank as follow: Saturn > Kizaru > Lucci (Luffy > Zoro > Sanji).

Sanji stopped Kizaru's laser and it seems that he will face Kizaru temporarily.
Sanji will fight Kizaru who will be a good match up for him in terms of speed but it's not his main fight.
Zoro is currently facing Lucci but he is stalling him and not taking him seriously (2 swords, no bandana...).
Jinbe went to get Zoro so it means the fight will be interrupted.

Zoro stalling Lucci is reflecting that this fight is not his primary fight.

Sanji and Zoro will switch opponents like they did in Wano (Sanji faced King then faced Queen).
Sanji is a better matchup for Lucci than Zoro (leg vs leg, better durability and exoskeleton).
Zoro is a better matchup for Kizaru than Sanji (Kizaru has been mainly fighting with his light sword).

Zoro will get his moment against Kizaru, that's what the whole arc is setting up.
Zoro will defeat Kizaru in Egghead, which will mirror Kizaru knocking Zoro out in Sabaody.
Zoro the "King of Hell" will clash with Kizaru's lightsword, like Rayleigh the "Silver King" in Sabaody.

Zoro will cut "light".

Zoro fighting Kizaru goes even beyond that. Zoro has to channel his energy to cut light and that makes him more likely to get black blade in the future. Zoro can't just go and land an attack like "Divine Departure" because the cut is not clean and it will not cut light, it will only cut Kizaru. So, he has to learn how to channel that blade energy to make a clean cut on light.

Kizaru's awakening may make him fuse with the light element and him becoming literally light. Zoro may need to learn how to cut light, like Sanji managed to stop a laser that was pure light. That will be the challenge.

You do you though, keep doing this circle jerking that you call "admiral agenda" and keep calling the sane readers who bring up better arguments than you guys do "deluded".
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