Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1151 Spoilers Discussion

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If bb chosen the fruits for his crew he took a big L ngl
Only augurs is overpowered hopefully Lafittes is banger that oda is Holding it back for so long
I wouldn't be too quick to jump to that conclusion.
Don't underestimate Teach's knowledge of Devil Fruits.
It's true that the Blackbeard Pirates DFs don't really stand out much especially when you compare them to the Logia or even some of the mythical zoans but Teach and his boys are clearly choosing affinity over optics.

"The Supersonic" Van Arugur -> Warp Warp Fruit
"God of Death" -> Sick Sick Fruit
"Champion" Burgess -> Strength Strength Fruit
and so on....

Just like we have affinity for Haki and affinity has a strong influence on how far you can take Haki (i.e. affinity for CoO -> FS), the same might also be true for Devil Fruits and said affinity could potentially be the difference between it taking a life time to awaken a DF or it taking just a few months.

Blackbeard Pirates are going to be very impressive when we finally get to see them in action properly.

Also if you're ever in doubt and think a DF is lame, remember Luffy.
Luffy's gomu gomu fruit became the Nika Fruit when it awakened so who knows maybe the Blackbeard Pirates DFs undergo a similar transformation.

One thing Luffy shares in common with the BB Pirates like I've pointed out above is "affinity" with his DF.
Moreover keep in mind that info about Nika wasn't in the Devil Fruit Encyclopedia so who knows maybe there are some DFs out there that are similar as well, DFs with hidden potential that we just don't know about yet ^^
 
While Zoro is obviously stronger than Sanji I do think out of any other duo they more than the rest basically share that right hand man position

Like there really isn’t any type of hierarchy between the 2
  1. Luffy trust them equally
  2. The rest of the crew views them equally
  3. They equally respect each other
Is zoro stronger? Yes but that doesn’t change the fact that besides their little brotherly rivalry no one in the crew really cares including them. With them having massive expectations for each other as well that pushes them further



Which is slightly different than Rayleigh and Gaban, king and queen, Beckman and Roux, etc where there’s an obvious difference in treatment by the crew with them having actual higher positions
Right hand man > left
King is a higher rank than queen

Oda deadass is likely gonna have zoro and sanji argue over who really is the right hand man or no. 2 of the crew. With the rest not caring
He might even give sanji the higher bounty again to add more fuel to the fire
 
Latrines and their 3 brain cells are unable to understand why Zoro defeating Kizaru is the most logical conclusion that a sane reader could take.

It's not about downplaying Kizaru or overhyping Zoro, it's about Zoro surpassing Kizaru before he reaches Mihawk's level and him cutting even light. Zoro always faces the 2nd strongest opponent and Luffy is facing Saturn who is > Kizaru (you can't deny that anymore).

In terms of strength, the arc villains rank as follow: Saturn > Kizaru > Lucci (Luffy > Zoro > Sanji).

Sanji stopped Kizaru's laser and it seems that he will face Kizaru temporarily.
Sanji will fight Kizaru who will be a good match up for him in terms of speed but it's not his main fight.
Zoro is currently facing Lucci but he is stalling him and not taking him seriously (2 swords, no bandana...).
Jinbe went to get Zoro so it means the fight will be interrupted.


Zoro stalling Lucci is reflecting that this fight is not his primary fight.

Sanji and Zoro will switch opponents like they did in Wano (Sanji faced King then faced Queen).
Sanji is a better matchup for Lucci than Zoro (leg vs leg, better durability and exoskeleton).
Zoro is a better matchup for Kizaru than Sanji (Kizaru has been mainly fighting with his light sword).


Zoro will get his moment against Kizaru, that's what the whole arc is setting up.
Zoro will defeat Kizaru in Egghead, which will mirror Kizaru knocking Zoro out in Sabaody.
Zoro the "King of Hell" will clash with Kizaru's lightsword, like Rayleigh the "Silver King" in Sabaody.


Zoro will cut "light".

Zoro fighting Kizaru goes even beyond that. Zoro has to channel his energy to cut light and that makes him more likely to get black blade in the future. Zoro can't just go and land an attack like "Divine Departure" because the cut is not clean and it will not cut light, it will only cut Kizaru. So, he has to learn how to channel that blade energy to make a clean cut on light.

Kizaru's awakening may make him fuse with the light element and him becoming literally light. Zoro may need to learn how to cut light, like Sanji managed to stop a laser that was pure light. That will be the challenge.

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You do you though, keep doing this circle jerking that you call "admiral agenda" and keep calling the sane readers who bring up better arguments than you guys do "deluded".

When that happens, we will be there. @mly90 and I will be there, I can guarantee you and I strongly advise you to read my avi.

Like @mly90 said: "Toxicity is reaching maximum level in the coming weeks. I foresee a lot of people running away deactivating 🤣"
 
Speechless already? Lmao

I can promise you, with all my heart and soul, no real Zoro fan gives a singular fuck about Sanji's power level. It literally does not affect him whatsoever because Sanji isn't even a swordsman, so who gives a shit if he's above Zoro or equal to him? It doesn't make his dream of becoming the WSS impossible or anything, so it's no concern for us.
The only time this nonsense is argued about is when Sanji fans get out of line and start to think Sanji can win against Zoro 5 times out of 10 or 6 times out of 10, when the manga tells us time and time again that this is never the case. At the end of the day all their problems come from running their mouths. If they didn't say nonsense like "LMAOOO SANJI KICKED THE SHIT OUT OF ZORO'S EOS OPPONENT [(Nusjuro)]!!", we wouldn't mention things like Nusjuro biting Sanji and Sanji being down for like 2 chapters afterwards.
You can keep believing what you want, we can see the vile shit and sheer spite for Sanji in their posts.
 
And there’s even more sanji fans that claim sanji’s CoO is > zoro’s, and that it’s “his speciality”. After WCI and Wano, they even compare it to Luffy’s

But here we have him and Zoro just as dumbfounded as each other
Luffy himself seems confused about this, CoO giving this kinda information is not normal, this is more like Momo and Luffy knowing about what Jack was doing to Zunesha than normal CoO
 
Why are y'all jumping to conclusions on CoO without seeing the bloody panels first :lawsigh:
Also have y'all forgotten that Luffy has VOAT? :kaidowhat:
Just wait for the bloody panels lol. Even the spoilers hinted at Luffy potentially using VOAT.
Luffy having better CoO than Sanji is whatever but again keep in mind that this was the same Luffy that like Zoro and Sanji has been unable to sense the Holy Knights till now
 
Why are y'all jumping to conclusions on CoO without seeing the bloody panels first :lawsigh:
Also have y'all forgotten that Luffy has VOAT? :kaidowhat:
Just wait for the bloody panels lol. Even the spoilers hinted at Luffy potentially using VOAT.
Luffy having better CoO than Sanji is whatever but again keep in mind that this was the same Luffy that like Zoro and Sanji has been unable to sense the Holy Knights till now
Loki also sensing it despite him having zero CoO feats and still being in seastone is another hint that it’s absolutely VoaT. Likely the Adam Tree showed Luffy a vision of Chopper and Gaban just like Zunesha did before
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The era of aura farming with coc has passed
If the final villain can't ko Nami or Usopp then Oda should stop trying to impress us by just adding bigger black haki ⚡
Even Usopp and Nami are strong compared to the fodder that get knocked out by CoC. The strongest we’ve seen knocked out are VAs who were point blank next to Joyboys haki and even they are likely weaker than Usopp.
 
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