Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1152 Spoilers Discussion

[MonochromeYoru]

Idk about the ins and outs, but zoro post new coc understanding will be > current zoro

I don't disagree lol

That's how levels work

But that's not what yall are/were pushing

Yall were pushing that since zoro didn;t know he had coc, he was not using it well, and thus he could have been more powerful even without the new upgrade.

That is false. Because the nature of enma draws out every ounce of coc within him automatically. So much so that he is in danger of dying.

So he was hitting as hard as he could with acoc. His usage was not weak at all.

That's all i'm saying.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

You're missing my point.

My claim is that the loss to Itachi was so severe that any goal that could ever include taking out Itachi is by default a No No for Orochimaru just because of the sheer difference of strength displayed during their short encounter.

I get your point, but I'm saying Orochimaru's goal not being Itachi-centric does not change that Itachi has shook Orochimaru so severely touching him is something Orochimaru wouldn't even dare to dream about.

But none of that matters because Itachi is not Orochimaru's goal, only his first option in achieving his goal.

If Sasuke accidentally died, you better believe Orochimaru is looking at all backup options. But he doesn't need to.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

We been talking about that dumbass since early dropped

i been busy clown

 

[L57]

i been busy clown

It was with you clown i talkd

 

[HeroesNZ]

Yeah, a fact that she couldn’t move and weak souls don’t amp her enough

Now, use that small brain of yours. If she could overpower the attack like she said she would? Why didn’t she? Why did Oda name the chapter after her bluff failing?

Reading comprehension is needed


lil bro forgot Lucci could also move, he literally turned around and covered himself

I'm convinced you're trolling lmfaoo.

She doesn't need to get amped to win at that point, Kid and Law were finished. Honestly bro go to sleep you gotta be tired 😂

All she needed was enough souls to move, at which point she can use her own lifespan to continue fighting if need be. And she had enough souls to move, as shown by her grabbing the bombs. Manga fact.

At no point did she say overpowering the attack was her only way of winning lmfaoo, my bro your reading comprehension is ass, you need to take these Law goggles off cos this cope is insane rn. Her path to victory was clear - heal herself and keep fighting. Explain rn why she wouldn't have been able to heal herself.

Are you retarded? The difference between Lucci and Big Mom is Lucci can't heal 😂 Zoro just shat on a fresh Lucci, now he could barely stand so what do you think was coming next lmfaooo, Zoro clearly displayed himself as the vastly superior fighter vs Lucci beyond any reasonable doubt which is not the case with Kid/Law vs Big Mom, as there is undeniably reasonable doubt as to whether they could've won without the bombs. This is Simone Biles levels of mental gymnastics rn lmfao.

 

[Cross_Marian]

So how will Oda incorporate Ace into the Harald flashback?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Yeah. That's what I disagree with. Itachi became a taboo for Orochimaru.

Well you can see how you're wrong in that assumption because Orochimaru, when we have 1 Uchiha left, is willing to go after Sasuke's body in time.

This obviously changes as he sees Sasuke develop and as he muses over Kabuto's memories, but he was able to look out from Anko's curse mark, see the battle going on and said "Yup, EMS Sasuke? I'm here for it."

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

It seems like whoever stole it swapped it out they said Loki ate it if they thought that then he must of displayed some power at some point for them to think he ate the fruit

It could be in the DF encyclopedia… Apparently every DF is in the encyclopedia except the Nika fruit

 

[Zemlya]

I don't disagree lol

That's how levels work

But that's not what yall are/were pushing

Yall were pushing that since zoro didn;t know he had coc, he was not using it well, and thus he could have been more powerful even without the new upgrade.

That is false. Because the nature of enma draws out every ounce of coc within him automatically. So much so that he is in danger of dying.

So he was hitting as hard as he could with acoc. His usage was not weak at all.

That's all i'm saying.

Who’s stopping me from saying zoro will hit harder after

 

[MonochromeYoru]

If one tries to make sense with Zoro apparently not knowing he has CoC, the Zoro thing is probably another Daz Bones situation where during the Daz Bones fight, he learnt to listen the breath of all things, but after that fight he couldn't control it, needing to learn to control it

The difference here is that it's most likely due to Emma's property of forcibly taking the users haki, that at one point Zoro managed to stabilize it

But apparently not knowing at that point that not only the haki that allowed him to do it was CoC, but that he unconsciously used adcoc

So he is at the stage where he needs to control it, with Enma being the trigger to develop his leaking haki, but thinking at the time that being King of hell meant mastering Enma, but not knowing at the time, that the haki needed to do so is coc

At least the admin has a brain

 

[Yoho]

It could be in the DF encyclopedia… Apparently every DF is in the encyclopedia except the Nika fruit

Nika fruit is there, its the gum gum fruit that's not mentioned in the encyclopedia

 

[Roo]

I'm convinced you're trolling lmfaoo.

She doesn't need to get amped to win at that point, Kid and Law were finished. Honestly bro go to sleep you gotta be tired 😂

All she needed was enough souls to move, at which point she can use her own lifespan to continue fighting if need be. And she had enough souls to move, as shown by her grabbing the bombs. Manga fact.

At no point did she say overpowering the attack was her only way of winning lmfaoo, my bro your reading comprehension is ass, you need to take these Law goggles off cos this cope is insane rn. Her path to victory was clear - heal herself and keep fighting. Explain rn why she wouldn't have been able to heal herself.

Are you retarded? The difference between Lucci and Big Mom is Lucci can't heal 😂 Zoro just shat on a fresh Lucci, now he could barely stand so what do you think was coming next lmfaooo, Zoro clearly displayed himself as the vastly superior fighter vs Lucci beyond any reasonable doubt which is not the case with Kid/Law vs Big Mom, as there is undeniably reasonable doubt as to whether they could've won without the bombs. This is Simone Biles levels of mental gymnastics rn lmfao.

Bro arguing against actual panels

he cannot read 💔

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Who’s stopping me from saying zoro will hit harder after

Go for it lol

we all here for our own retarded agendas anyway

Post automatically merged: Jun 18, 2025

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

If one tries to make sense with Zoro apparently not knowing he has CoC, the Zoro thing is probably another Daz Bones situation where during the Daz Bones fight, he learnt to listen the breath of all things, but after that fight he couldn't control it, needing to learn to control it

The difference here is that it's most likely due to Emma's property of forcibly taking the users haki, that at one point Zoro managed to stabilize it

But apparently not knowing at that point that not only the haki that allowed him to do it was CoC, but that he unconsciously used adcoc

So he is at the stage where he needs to control it, with Enma being the trigger to develop his leaking haki, but thinking at the time that being King of hell meant mastering Enma, but not knowing at the time, that the haki needed to do so is coc

This is a thing with pretty much every powerup Zoro gets. He even had a similar problem with Shusui like with Enma where he had to control and tame the swords so they didn't release too much or too little Haki and power.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

It was with you clown i talkd

i don't remember 99% of the shit i post here lmao

i dont even know what the current argument between us is

 

[soupongo]

You're missing my point.

My claim is that the loss to Itachi was so severe that any goal that could ever include taking out Itachi is by default a No No for Orochimaru just because of the sheer difference of strength displayed during their short encounter.

I get your point, but I'm saying Orochimaru's goal not being Itachi-centric does not change that Itachi has shook Orochimaru so severely touching him is something Orochimaru wouldn't even dare to dream about.

idk about that lol

For Orochimaru, destroying the leaf and taking over the sand were part of creating a generally more chaotic world full of war, certainly the Akatsuki would get involved in a situation like another world war. He also was willing to kill Naruto in part 1 to get away in the Akatsukis plans

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

idk about that lol

For Orochimaru, destroying the leaf and taking over the sand were part of creating a generally more chaotic world full of war, certainly the Akatsuki would get involved in a situation like another world war. He also was willing to kill Naruto in part 1 to get away in the Akatsukis plans

Bro this art is so ass

 

[BestGen]

Imu absolutely curbstomps Kaido at this point. No joke.

Characters surpassing Kaido:

Akainu (100%)
Shanks
Mihawk
Dragon
Kuzan
Blackbeard (100%)

Did I forget someone else?

Gunkimu is already stronger than Kaido; I think I don't even need to wait for that.

Dumbass

 

[Cross_Marian]

Law left us too soon
Luffy and Law vs Gunko-Imu would’ve been a great match up because both are D.s + Iva teased that Imu used Law's df to get immortality, so there is a connection
I bet this is how Mingo knew about this

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Bro this art is so ass

The scan quality is bad, the art is great