One Piece 1152: An Awful Day
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Reread again this chapter
I found missing piece of the flow(like again)....
Apparently the M3 should have already known the situation above is extremely bad...i mean really bad through Gabban and chopper,
And I see no serious reaction or vibe from Luffy and co, they look like they don't really care to an extend, it's like a normal busy day for them.
Their crew literally got captured by the HK and at the mercy, and the supposed final boss IMU going crazy....
Yet the M3 shows no sign of realistic reaction in this chapter, especially Luffy tell them to go first, and join later, coz he needs to listen to a story first....
I found missing piece of the flow(like again)....
Apparently the M3 should have already known the situation above is extremely bad...i mean really bad through Gabban and chopper,
And I see no serious reaction or vibe from Luffy and co, they look like they don't really care to an extend, it's like a normal busy day for them.
Their crew literally got captured by the HK and at the mercy, and the supposed final boss IMU going crazy....
Yet the M3 shows no sign of realistic reaction in this chapter, especially Luffy tell them to go first, and join later, coz he needs to listen to a story first....
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am i the only one who hates laban? dude has the time to chitchat w/loki but can't be arsed to go protect his own kid? if you can't take care of your children don't fucking have them. if you're too old to be a parent don't be a parent. he has his wife run the household AND take care of the baby while he's just chilling in a bath. he filled kid shanks's head with idiotic chosen one nonsense (even though ratboy is not a D so he can NEVER be that). a serial pump-n-dumper. didn't even try to save roger's son.
i'm sick of him. fucking sick of him.
i'm sick of him. fucking sick of him.
am i the only one who hates laban? dude has the time to chitchat w/loki but can't be arsed to go protect his own kid? if you can't take care of your children don't fucking have them. if you're too old to be a parent don't be a parent. he has his wife run the household AND take care of the baby while he's just chilling in a bath. he filled kid shanks's head with idiotic chosen one nonsense (even though ratboy is not a D so he can NEVER be that). a serial pump-n-dumper. didn't even try to save roger's son.
i'm sick of him. fucking sick of him.
i'm sick of him. fucking sick of him.
Imu will of course be shown as a monster when the time comes. But it's never going to erase Imu getting dehyped before he could even have a single hype moment.
Let's assume it's some Kaido/Oden type relationship, Imu a bit stronger than Joyboy but still has PTSD, like Kaido a bit stronger than Oden but still has PTSD.
The difference is Imu didn't really get to be shown as an absolute monster before being shown as a bitch. Before Kaido got an L in Oden flashback, dude had massive hype after hype after hype.
As for
The butchering of Gorosei's characters bothers me even a lot more than their dogshit showings in Egghead.
Like, you can't observe the way Gorosei spoke and acted pre timeskip, and say with a straight face that they had the same personality as fucking Charlos.
What a disgraceful writing.
Oda had a great opportunity to make CDs more nuanced instead of cartoon villains. Gorosei in fact personified this in the past, with them very clea
There had to be a legit reason why 20 kingdoms joined up to fight the ancient kingdom.
But nah, they just villains cause evil, and humans insects something....... -_-
At least their feats can be chalked upto CIS and plot bullshit, with the usual trope of "I can heal". Even though it's very hard to see group consisting of 5 yonkos+admirals failing to even kill a single Strawhat.....
There is simply no saving the Gorosei's characters. Oda threw all nuance and individuality these character had under the bus, and made them Imu's slaves.
How cool would it have been if they were 5 of the OG 20 kings, who are ruled by the leader of the kings Imu (the king of kings)?
My theory is that Shanks wanted to see both sides.
Shanks grew up with Roger and co, clearly knew they were not truly bad guys.
Roger might have told him something about CDs and wanted him to carry Joyboy's will (passing of the straw hat).
But Shanks wanted to see if his ancestors are truly bad, to the point they need to be violently overthrown.
So, he went back in, and tried living with them.
I don't think it's slavery that broke Shanks' trust in them. Cause lets be real, more than 95% of the pirates in OP are pieces of shit who would murder and enslave others themselves. WG was still a stabilizing force that protects and maintains peace amongst kingdoms who are willing to pay tribute.
(Though whether Oda as an author will consider this nuance is a different story).
Shanks already probably knew about Imu to some degree, since he clearly was in consideration for holy knights.
My guess is Shanks learned some more lore that is unknown to us, made up his mind and then decided to defect for good.
I don't have anyone 100% locked in, but I heavily lean towards Imu being the final villain. But I recognize some valid narratives that point to BB being final villain as well.
If I have to guess, 80-20 in Imu's favour.
By the way, I think hype of BBPs took a hit too. I addressed it in my post as well, though I won't blame you for not getting that far down in that essay lol:
Let's assume it's some Kaido/Oden type relationship, Imu a bit stronger than Joyboy but still has PTSD, like Kaido a bit stronger than Oden but still has PTSD.
The difference is Imu didn't really get to be shown as an absolute monster before being shown as a bitch. Before Kaido got an L in Oden flashback, dude had massive hype after hype after hype.
As for
The butchering of Gorosei's characters bothers me even a lot more than their dogshit showings in Egghead.
Like, you can't observe the way Gorosei spoke and acted pre timeskip, and say with a straight face that they had the same personality as fucking Charlos.
What a disgraceful writing.
Oda had a great opportunity to make CDs more nuanced instead of cartoon villains. Gorosei in fact personified this in the past, with them very clea
There had to be a legit reason why 20 kingdoms joined up to fight the ancient kingdom.
But nah, they just villains cause evil, and humans insects something....... -_-
At least their feats can be chalked upto CIS and plot bullshit, with the usual trope of "I can heal". Even though it's very hard to see group consisting of 5 yonkos+admirals failing to even kill a single Strawhat.....
There is simply no saving the Gorosei's characters. Oda threw all nuance and individuality these character had under the bus, and made them Imu's slaves.
How cool would it have been if they were 5 of the OG 20 kings, who are ruled by the leader of the kings Imu (the king of kings)?
My theory is that Shanks wanted to see both sides.
Shanks grew up with Roger and co, clearly knew they were not truly bad guys.
Roger might have told him something about CDs and wanted him to carry Joyboy's will (passing of the straw hat).
But Shanks wanted to see if his ancestors are truly bad, to the point they need to be violently overthrown.
So, he went back in, and tried living with them.
I don't think it's slavery that broke Shanks' trust in them. Cause lets be real, more than 95% of the pirates in OP are pieces of shit who would murder and enslave others themselves. WG was still a stabilizing force that protects and maintains peace amongst kingdoms who are willing to pay tribute.
(Though whether Oda as an author will consider this nuance is a different story).
Shanks already probably knew about Imu to some degree, since he clearly was in consideration for holy knights.
My guess is Shanks learned some more lore that is unknown to us, made up his mind and then decided to defect for good.
I don't have anyone 100% locked in, but I heavily lean towards Imu being the final villain. But I recognize some valid narratives that point to BB being final villain as well.
If I have to guess, 80-20 in Imu's favour.
By the way, I think hype of BBPs took a hit too. I addressed it in my post as well, though I won't blame you for not getting that far down in that essay lol:
To bottom line it and save us a drawn out debate - I think Oda has put in far too much effort into Blackbeard for him to fail where Rocks failed.
I believe the big twist of Elbaph is Blackbeard invading the Holyland and casting Imu down for his powers.
I suspect much will be revealed about Joyboy, the Ancient Kingdom and Ancient Weapons, the Twenty Monarchs, the Void Century, Rocks and BB's relation to him, the D Clan, and more.
I believe the big twist of Elbaph is Blackbeard invading the Holyland and casting Imu down for his powers.
I suspect much will be revealed about Joyboy, the Ancient Kingdom and Ancient Weapons, the Twenty Monarchs, the Void Century, Rocks and BB's relation to him, the D Clan, and more.
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This does.
You make Zoro look like Vegapunk.
Luffy has consistently found ways to win.
He very much lives up to the stereotype of the dumb shounen MC with remarkable battle IQ, albeit through unorthodox methods.
Luffy's the type to figure out things out in the heat of battle and adapt in the moment
Meanwhile, Zoro won because King was a fucking idiot that didn't have the battle IQ to pick his shots better or when to turn off his flames.
He very much lives up to the stereotype of the dumb shounen MC with remarkable battle IQ, albeit through unorthodox methods.
Luffy's the type to figure out things out in the heat of battle and adapt in the moment
Meanwhile, Zoro won because King was a fucking idiot that didn't have the battle IQ to pick his shots better or when to turn off his flames.