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5ft 8 and 50 kg, these sassenachs are sticks. 
L on the other hand does not have a defined nationality but iirc the author stated that he considers L as a quarter Japanese, a quarter English, a quarter Russian and a quarter French or Italian.
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L wanted it to be Light, because otherwise it wouldn't be nearly as engaging and fun. The only time L tricked Light and got the best of him was with the Lind bit, and that was the only W L had against Light. And even that came in a moment where Light was inexperienced and high off of power. With Light locked in, L could never get the best of him.
What were those instances where luck saved Light?
Also I feel like you're trying to downplay the advantage L had. Imagine having access to every police database, setting up cameras, infinite money and foot soldiers, FBI, technology, the ability to raise a skyscraper in like over night just as HQ, L basically had quasi-omnipotent power and resources to prove that Light was Kira and he could never.
Like I said, L wanted Light to be Kira and operated on that thought process, even tho there was no actual sound reasoning behind it. So then L started going for different tactics to bait Light into revealing himself, but Light managed to outwit him still.
Let's also not forget that while yes Raito had the Death Note, he was playing the game on hard more, because he wanted to live longer. There were restrictions upon Light, cuz if Light hadn't had those restrictions, he could have killed L after their first meeting easily.
Well that's not Light's fault tho. Rem was attracted to Misa and Light managed to remove his 2 biggest obstacles in one fell swoop. He managed to outwit the world's greatest detective and a Shinigami at the same time. Do you realize how insane that actually is. How far ahead and calculating Light is.
Also Misa brought Light more unwanted trouble than actually doing anything good for him.
Well yeah but the Death Note is not invisible and has a set of rules. It's not something Light can do without anyone actually seeing him do it. That's again another way that Light outsmarted L, when eating potato chips, writing with his weaker hand, and killing people while L was watching him and L being unable to see anything off or catch Light in any way.
That's also not true.
When the knowledge was close to being revealed, Light went and made himself innocent.
By erasing everything he has done, and forgetting about it. So, he plans a few kills weeks before he erases his memories, tells himself that he will be locked up so that deaths will still occur while he is locked up (showing that he is not Kira), understands that L is really good at reading other people's intentions and therefore would be fooled by the oblivious Light, instructs the Shinigami to give the book to a greedy, power hungry individual, predicts that Light himself will be freed of prison due to the lack of proof by L, which therefore leads to himself assisting L in finding βKiraβ, leading to the arrest of Higuchi, which means that the Death Note would be taken from him and therefore end up in Lβs hand, which would therefore end up in Lightβs hand, which then leads to him recovering the memories at the exact moment when Higuchi is being imprisoned, which leads to him predicting that he would utilize the same watch which would contain a piece of the death note that would allow him to kill Higuchi.
Not only does he manage to predict how L and everyone else will react, he reads HIMSELF into the future, 100 steps ahead. There has not been any instance that L has contrived as meticulously as Light has.
When they do catch Light, Near notes that it was due to the fact that him and Mello together are enough to surpass L. But even then, they weren't actually enough to catch Light.
He predicted accurately what Near would do, exactly. Light, before Near himself thought about it, predicted that the latter would end up deducing that Mikami would be the best fit to fulfill Kiraβs wishes. Thus, realizing that Near was going to change the papers of the Death Note for fake ones, told him to create a fake death note and start annotating on it. All while pretending to not have realized that Light was aware of Nearβs actions.
Had Mikami not acted on his own and killed the woman (which Light told him over and over not to do), the SPK would have not realized that Light had created a fake death note and that would result in all members of the SPK and everyone else opposing Kira getting assassinated.
There are many smart characters in Death Note, but it's made clear that Light stands atop of all of them in terms on intelligence.
What were those instances where luck saved Light?
Also I feel like you're trying to downplay the advantage L had. Imagine having access to every police database, setting up cameras, infinite money and foot soldiers, FBI, technology, the ability to raise a skyscraper in like over night just as HQ, L basically had quasi-omnipotent power and resources to prove that Light was Kira and he could never.
Like I said, L wanted Light to be Kira and operated on that thought process, even tho there was no actual sound reasoning behind it. So then L started going for different tactics to bait Light into revealing himself, but Light managed to outwit him still.
Let's also not forget that while yes Raito had the Death Note, he was playing the game on hard more, because he wanted to live longer. There were restrictions upon Light, cuz if Light hadn't had those restrictions, he could have killed L after their first meeting easily.
Well that's not Light's fault tho. Rem was attracted to Misa and Light managed to remove his 2 biggest obstacles in one fell swoop. He managed to outwit the world's greatest detective and a Shinigami at the same time. Do you realize how insane that actually is. How far ahead and calculating Light is.
Also Misa brought Light more unwanted trouble than actually doing anything good for him.
Well yeah but the Death Note is not invisible and has a set of rules. It's not something Light can do without anyone actually seeing him do it. That's again another way that Light outsmarted L, when eating potato chips, writing with his weaker hand, and killing people while L was watching him and L being unable to see anything off or catch Light in any way.
That's also not true.
When the knowledge was close to being revealed, Light went and made himself innocent.
By erasing everything he has done, and forgetting about it. So, he plans a few kills weeks before he erases his memories, tells himself that he will be locked up so that deaths will still occur while he is locked up (showing that he is not Kira), understands that L is really good at reading other people's intentions and therefore would be fooled by the oblivious Light, instructs the Shinigami to give the book to a greedy, power hungry individual, predicts that Light himself will be freed of prison due to the lack of proof by L, which therefore leads to himself assisting L in finding βKiraβ, leading to the arrest of Higuchi, which means that the Death Note would be taken from him and therefore end up in Lβs hand, which would therefore end up in Lightβs hand, which then leads to him recovering the memories at the exact moment when Higuchi is being imprisoned, which leads to him predicting that he would utilize the same watch which would contain a piece of the death note that would allow him to kill Higuchi.
Not only does he manage to predict how L and everyone else will react, he reads HIMSELF into the future, 100 steps ahead. There has not been any instance that L has contrived as meticulously as Light has.
When they do catch Light, Near notes that it was due to the fact that him and Mello together are enough to surpass L. But even then, they weren't actually enough to catch Light.
He predicted accurately what Near would do, exactly. Light, before Near himself thought about it, predicted that the latter would end up deducing that Mikami would be the best fit to fulfill Kiraβs wishes. Thus, realizing that Near was going to change the papers of the Death Note for fake ones, told him to create a fake death note and start annotating on it. All while pretending to not have realized that Light was aware of Nearβs actions.
Had Mikami not acted on his own and killed the woman (which Light told him over and over not to do), the SPK would have not realized that Light had created a fake death note and that would result in all members of the SPK and everyone else opposing Kira getting assassinated.
There are many smart characters in Death Note, but it's made clear that Light stands atop of all of them in terms on intelligence.
Multiple instances such as Misa being in love with him, and serving as his scapegoat; the Death Note ownership shenanigans was also a complete asspull. That was the time where Light was actually cornered like a rat but all of the sudden, the Death Gods played into his plans as well doing exactly as they were told. He also just hoped that he somehow gets a hold of the notebook back, he relied on fate for that to happen. There was no concrete plans of getting it back, it served its purpose of making him survive the restriction phase. All of a sudden, a guy like Higuchi comes along and does exactly whatβs needed for Light to get into position of retrieving the Death Note back β albeit very entertaining, all of it was a string of cartoonish conveniences like Aizen saying it was all according to plan type of shit.
His strategies always relied on these supernatural crutches while L had to work with very limited information. Somehow be right on the money about everything, even to the detail of what Kira needs to kill β and all of it came from pieceing it together from pure logic. He also let Kira touch the notebook later on and it revealed the Shinigamis. Very uncharacteristic of L to also not confirm it was Kira right there and then. Kira was literally screaming in confusion like a mad man, L as we know of him SHOULD have fixated on that. He should have put him under constant surveillance again but he was uncharacteristically careless during the final stretch, conveniently so. He also didnβt know about the convenient memory wipe thing going on so thereβs that.
No, I donβt care about the databook really. Iβm going off on what we observed during the show. And, the author also said that L was the smartest in one of his interviews. Light could have more raw iq or even knowledge but in terms of deduction skills, L takes the cake.
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Yeah because both have the advantages. Ryuk aided Light with that, but it was Light that planned around it, killed people in front of L, with L being unable to grasp that he was doing the killings as he was watching him.
That's not luck.
First of all, Light is a very handsome guy, as depicted in the manga and anime, with girls going crazy over him all the time.
Secondly, Light killed the criminal that murdered Misa's parents, bringing her justice after her traumatizing experience.
Misa was obsessed with Kira before she even found out it was Light. Then when she found out he's a guy her age, good looking, etc, she fell head over heels for him.
Light played her too and took advantage of that, but Misa brought in more mishaps for him.
Light never held any attachments, real attachments to Misa, she was just another pawn in his plan, but she was more than happy to serve as a scapegoat for Light.
Switching the ownership of the Death Note? It was all there among the rules in the Death Note.
He didn't hope. He planned it all out, by finding the guy that he knew would act the way Light wanted him to act and he knew they'd capture him and how everyone would react. He wasn't hoping. He planned it all out. He read everyone, including the innocent version of himself, and devised a plan around it that worked to perfection. It wasn't a stroke of luck. Light knew it would end up in his hands.
No they didn't. Light strategies relied on his ability to read people, force them to do his bidding and take advantage of it. L had everything in the world to prove that Light was Kira, and again, L had no sound logic to actually peg Light as Kira except the fact that he wanted him to be and thought no one else could be Kira.
See, even you can't tell how L got the things right. It's because he wasn't basing them on logic, he was guessing. His guess turned out to be true, but he had no way of proving that.
Are you referring to when they catch Higuchi?
What we can observe in the show is that Light is smarter than L, which you also seem to agree by stating he has the higher IQ or knowledge. I said Light has equal deduction reasoning skills earlier, but you can argue L is superior there, he has been raised his entire life to be a detective and has been one his entire life. But at the end of the day, it is Light who is smarter than L, and it's Light that beats L.
That's not luck.
First of all, Light is a very handsome guy, as depicted in the manga and anime, with girls going crazy over him all the time.
Secondly, Light killed the criminal that murdered Misa's parents, bringing her justice after her traumatizing experience.
Misa was obsessed with Kira before she even found out it was Light. Then when she found out he's a guy her age, good looking, etc, she fell head over heels for him.
Light played her too and took advantage of that, but Misa brought in more mishaps for him.
Light never held any attachments, real attachments to Misa, she was just another pawn in his plan, but she was more than happy to serve as a scapegoat for Light.
Switching the ownership of the Death Note? It was all there among the rules in the Death Note.
He didn't hope. He planned it all out, by finding the guy that he knew would act the way Light wanted him to act and he knew they'd capture him and how everyone would react. He wasn't hoping. He planned it all out. He read everyone, including the innocent version of himself, and devised a plan around it that worked to perfection. It wasn't a stroke of luck. Light knew it would end up in his hands.
No they didn't. Light strategies relied on his ability to read people, force them to do his bidding and take advantage of it. L had everything in the world to prove that Light was Kira, and again, L had no sound logic to actually peg Light as Kira except the fact that he wanted him to be and thought no one else could be Kira.
See, even you can't tell how L got the things right. It's because he wasn't basing them on logic, he was guessing. His guess turned out to be true, but he had no way of proving that.
Are you referring to when they catch Higuchi?
What we can observe in the show is that Light is smarter than L, which you also seem to agree by stating he has the higher IQ or knowledge. I said Light has equal deduction reasoning skills earlier, but you can argue L is superior there, he has been raised his entire life to be a detective and has been one his entire life. But at the end of the day, it is Light who is smarter than L, and it's Light that beats L.
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Good convo tho @park_min young
It's been a long time since I seriously and in depth talked about Death Note and Light and L.
Guess we can at least agree that both are GOATED.
It's been a long time since I seriously and in depth talked about Death Note and Light and L.
Guess we can at least agree that both are GOATED.
Good convo tho @park_min young
It's been a long time since I seriously and in depth talked about Death Note and Light and L.
Guess we can at least agree that both are GOATED.
It's been a long time since I seriously and in depth talked about Death Note and Light and L.
Guess we can at least agree that both are GOATED.
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One retag here to see if we can spice it up and then finalize the entire rankings.
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