Controversial General Political Discussion

[The White Crane]

Don't get me wrong, Trump is doing a couple of good things for Brazil, but he is doing everything he said he wouldn't do. Don't understimated how wars impact US public opinion. Remember Vietnam. People aren't going to like receiving their loved ones in coffins. Trump might be doing political suicide right here. Shit like this ruins political careers. War is serious business.

Look how Trump mishandled the Covid pandemic response. MAGA received their loved ones in coffins and still did not discard him. Heck, he literally got the popular mandate last year after an easy win.

No amount of wars and coffins will make MAGA discard Trump, dude. I'm pretty sure they're ready to elect him for a third term in 2028 and a fourth term in 2032, too.

 

[Okamakama]

Why is it that the Middle-East always goes to shit?

Why is it that everyone is always sure it's the fault of just one group?

This was bound to happen eventually. One side wanted it, and the other played chicken with a man with ego and impulse control issues.

We're living in a clown world.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Why is it that the Middle-East always goes to shit?

Why is it that everyone is always sure it's the fault of just one group?

This was bound to happen eventually. One side wanted it, and the other played chicken with a man with ego and impulse control issues.

We're living in a clown world.

Ancient tech buried in the sands.

 

[NAMELESS]

Ancient tech buried in the sands.

What? Aladdin's flying carpet?

 

[Okamakama]

What? Aladdin's flying carpet?

ARABIAN NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHTS.
(banger).

 

[NAMELESS]

ARABIAN NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHTS.
(banger).

Too bad Iranians are Persian

 

[Okamakama]

Too bad Iranians are Persian

Mate, I'm not even going to pretend to be able to distinguish between these groups.

 

[NAMELESS]

Mate, I'm not even going to pretend to be able to distinguish between these groups.

lol

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Why is it that the Middle-East always goes to shit?

Why is it that everyone is always sure it's the fault of just one group?

This was bound to happen eventually. One side wanted it, and the other played chicken with a man with ego and impulse control issues.

We're living in a clown world.

If Iran gets nuke it’s game over for US and Israel in Middle East . So it’s about supremacy here who holds the throne here .

Israel was always a proxy for US in disguise they do all dirty work . Trump being in power changes nothing even Biden /Obama would have done this if they were in power .

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Mate, I'm not even going to pretend to be able to distinguish between these groups.

Persians are ethnic group they speak Farsi . Iran is just another name for Persia.

 

[Okamakama]

If Iran gets nuke it’s game over for US and Israel in Middle East . So it’s about supremacy here who holds the throne here .

Israel was always a proxy for US in disguise they do all dirty work . Trump being in power changes nothing even Biden /Obama would have done this if they were in power .

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Persians are ethnic group they speak Farsi . Iran is just another name for Persia.

I mean, Israel being a US proxy is not a surprise to anyone at this point. Nonetheless, based on my brief understanding of Iran, the last time someone tried putting a puppet government in charge there was a revolution. By that logic, if the US truly believes they're that grand of a threat and do not want to give up their ambitions in the Middle-East then this was an inevitable result.

(And that is assuming that this isn't just one big show of bluster. I've heard some reports that America didn't succeed with damaging the nuclear structures, and Iran's retaliation yielded next to no casualties, almost as if both are win swapping ala Cold War and the Cuban Missle Crisis).

By the way, thank you for enlightening me regarding the Persian distinction. I'll remember that.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Iran is just another name for Persia.

Nope
Persians are ONE of several ethnic groups in Iran.
Persia is not the politically correct word for Iran either.

 

[Okamakama]

Nope
Persians are ONE of several ethnic groups in Iran.
Persia is not the politically correct word for Iran either.

The plot thickens.

 

[Roo]

Why is it that the Middle-East always goes to shit?

Why is it that everyone is always sure it's the fault of just one group?

This was bound to happen eventually. One side wanted it, and the other played chicken with a man with ego and impulse control issues.

We're living in a clown world.

Europe was just like this less than 100 years ago lol

 

[Finalbeta]

Indians who worship Zionism are the worst.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Nope
Persians are ONE of several ethnic groups in Iran.
Persia is not the politically correct word for Iran either.

It is used to be called Persian empire before Pehalvi changed the name to Iran . The Farsi makes up around 70 percentage there are Jews , Azerbaijani , Pashutans and Arabs . Iran is huge but majority of em are Farsi .

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I mean, Israel being a US proxy is not a surprise to anyone at this point. Nonetheless, based on my brief understanding of Iran, the last time someone tried putting a puppet government in charge there was a revolution. By that logic, if the US truly believes they're that grand of a threat and do not want to give up their ambitions in the Middle-East then this was an inevitable result.

(And that is assuming that this isn't just one big show of bluster. I've heard some reports that America didn't succeed with damaging the nuclear structures, and Iran's retaliation yielded next to no casualties, almost as if both are win swapping ala Cold War and the Cuban Missle Crisis).

By the way, thank you for enlightening me regarding the Persian distinction. I'll remember that.

Trust me Foreign govt overthrowing the local regime and claiming themselves to bring in Free democratic govt is never going to work . Soviets have failed in doing this when they tried to spread communism now Americans are doing same mistake .

It’s upto Iranian civilians if they want new regime or not they made same mistake with Libya , Iraq and Afghanistan it never works .

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Indians who worship Zionism are the worst.

tbh a lot of hindutva bros are really antisemitic. But they will pretend to be pro-Israel because they are anti-Muslim.

but also, these are the same guys who think Hitler was a good guy because he was anti-Britain

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If Iran gets nuke it’s game over for US and Israel in Middle East . So it’s about supremacy here who holds the throne here .

Israel was always a proxy for US in disguise they do all dirty work . Trump being in power changes nothing even Biden /Obama would have done this if

Honestly wonder if the world might actually be more peaceful if Iran had nukes.

Nuclear powers don’t usually go to war with each other. If Iran had nukes, perhaps there would be a greater incentive for middle eastern countries to use diplomacy over war.

….

Or it could lead to WWIII, you never know

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

tbh a lot of hindutva bros are really antisemitic. But they will pretend to be pro-Israel because they are anti-Muslim.

but also, these are the same guys who think Hitler was a good guy because he was anti-Britain

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Honestly wonder if the world might actually be more peaceful if Iran had nukes.

Nuclear powers don’t usually go to war with each other. If Iran had nukes, perhaps there would be a greater incentive for middle eastern countries to use diplomacy over war.

….

Or it could lead to WWIII, you never know

Possibly I agree it also creates stale mate for Israel to grow their influence and Saudis don’t really like Iran because of Shia-Sunni ideology stuff .

Most of Middle Eastern countries totally don’t like Iran but for Iran having Nuclear is safeguard to avoid regime getting toppled last week was prime example .

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

But Lermany and Turf Island are licking Israel’s asshole …

Lermany misunderstood their own doctrine "never again". It should mean taking an anti genocide stance no matter who is the victim but is effectively interpreted as Israel can do no wrong no matter what.

Look how Trump mishandled the Covid pandemic response. MAGA received their loved ones in coffins and still did not discard him. Heck, he literally got the popular mandate last year after an easy win.

No amount of wars and coffins will make MAGA discard Trump, dude. I'm pretty sure they're ready to elect him for a third term in 2028 and a fourth term in 2032, too.

Maga is their religion and orange their savior

Why is it that the Middle-East always goes to shit?

Because Murica

Mate, I'm not even going to pretend to be able to distinguish between these groups.

I recommend this video

It uses stereotypical music as a starting point to further explore the middle east's misrepresentation by Hollywood and the west in general. It's an entertaining and funny video too and no dry uni lecture.

Indians who worship Zionism are the worst.

You mean NE Indians? they're brainwashed by their colonial western missionaries.

Pehalvi changed the name to Iran

Iran is an old name

 

[Finalbeta]

tbh a lot of hindutva bros are really antisemitic. But they will pretend to be pro-Israel because they are anti-Muslim.

but also, these are the same guys who think Hitler was a good guy because he was anti-Britain

The main issue with Zionism is that it's based on and funded by Western supremacist ideology. The Palestinians and other Arabs in the Middle East who are firmly opposed to it are considered Amalek by Zionists.

Most Zionists consider Palestinians human animals and they care about the few hostages left in the hands of Hamas more than the entire Gaza population.

A way to fight Zionism is by keeping expose the Gaza genocide and land grab in the West Bank so that more and more Western citizens can open their eyes so that the Western support for Israel is slowly weakened.

The problem is that this way is too slow.

The other is true brute strenght, but apart from a 12 days war Iran fought (and was imposed on) Eastern powers do not care enough to go to war with Israel and the US.

If I was China I would pressure Iran to build nukes so that they don't need to contain themselves when they fight Israel in fear of a nuclear strike.

The US attack on nuclear facilities was an insuccess so they have the ability to build them in months if they wished so.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

The main issue with Zionism is that it's based on and funded by Western supremacist ideology. The Palestinians and other Arabs in the Middle East who are firmly opposed to it are considered Amalek by Zionists.

Most Zionists consider Palestinians human animals and they care about the few hostages left in the hands of Hamas more than the entire Gaza population.

A way to fight Zionism is by keeping expose the Gaza genocide and land grab in the West Bank so that more and more Western citizens can open their eyes so that the Western support for Israel is slowly weakened.

The problem is that this way is too slow.

The other is true brute strenght, but apart from a 12 days war Iran fought (and was imposed on) Eastern powers do not care enough to go to war with Israel and the US.

If I was China I would pressure Iran to build nukes so that they don't need to contain themselves when they fight Israel in fear of a nuclear strike.

The US attack on nuclear facilities was an insuccess so they have the ability to build them in months if they wished so.

You guys overestimate China tbh , they don’t want to burn themselves in Middle East they will observe things from outside and supply weapons . They still want to be business partner with US .