Versus Battle Kyoukai vs Akou
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Let's go under the assumption she does on offensive.
The moment she realizes she can't get through the formation; all she has to do is call it a retreat and go on the defensive. Which she's shown to excel at, in smaller scale battles at least since the start of the series.
There's really nothing that's forcing Kyoukai to keep on attacking the Shells formation head on.
The moment she realizes she can't get through the formation; all she has to do is call it a retreat and go on the defensive. Which she's shown to excel at, in smaller scale battles at least since the start of the series.
There's really nothing that's forcing Kyoukai to keep on attacking the Shells formation head on.
I tought that the ridiculus Akou wank died out after Hango, but I guess it's still going strong in some circles.
>Strong enough to duel Houken and perform better against him then Duke Hyou and Kyou (she cut off his fingers, stabbed him in arm and left some slashing wounds).
>Compared to a 6GG by Gyou'un after she screwed up his offensive.
>Created her own unique anti-cavalry formations.
>Figured out the purpose behind Ousen's locust before Mouten and Ouhon.
>Figured out Genpou's sound comunication and successfully countered it.
>"The most explosive charge on the battlefields of China in recent years."
>Shown campaign-level planing during conquest of Nanyou. Her and Tou were both credited for the strategy.
>Compared to a 6GG by Gyou'un after she screwed up his offensive.
>Created her own unique anti-cavalry formations.
>Figured out the purpose behind Ousen's locust before Mouten and Ouhon.
>Figured out Genpou's sound comunication and successfully countered it.
>"The most explosive charge on the battlefields of China in recent years."
>Shown campaign-level planing during conquest of Nanyou. Her and Tou were both credited for the strategy.
Highly subjective, Duke Hyou broke Houken’s arm.
Anyway no one ever denied she is cracked in dismounted 1v1.
This also applies to Akou who could explicitly use 6GG level tactics.
Okay? And how would that imply anything about her proximity to Akou?
Having one off showings of insight doesn’t say much about her overall level aside from her potential lol, I mean are you arguing she’s smarter than Ouhon and Mouten just because she had this one impressive instance?
Even mentioning this moment is just suspect as fuck, are you implying that Sanyou Kyoukai ~ Akou level? What even is the point of bringing this up lol
A charge that was able to extreme diff the legendary general Haidon of Han with Shin’s help lol, it’s like you’re just making hype statements without thinking about them any deeper than surface level.
Akou stalled out Bananji for reference.
Nah we’ve been through this, she spoke one sentence and you’re acting like she’s the next Ousen lol.
Nah Kyoukai’s best feat as a general was defeating General Haidon, she had had some nice moments for sure but she isn’t Akou level. I’m not kidding you when I tell you Rokuomi could’ve probably pulled off what she and Shin did to Haidon and Rokuomi is a tier below Akou
Anyway no one ever denied she is cracked in dismounted 1v1.
This also applies to Akou who could explicitly use 6GG level tactics.
Okay? And how would that imply anything about her proximity to Akou?
Having one off showings of insight doesn’t say much about her overall level aside from her potential lol, I mean are you arguing she’s smarter than Ouhon and Mouten just because she had this one impressive instance?
Even mentioning this moment is just suspect as fuck, are you implying that Sanyou Kyoukai ~ Akou level? What even is the point of bringing this up lol
A charge that was able to extreme diff the legendary general Haidon of Han with Shin’s help lol, it’s like you’re just making hype statements without thinking about them any deeper than surface level.
Akou stalled out Bananji for reference.
Nah we’ve been through this, she spoke one sentence and you’re acting like she’s the next Ousen lol.
Nah Kyoukai’s best feat as a general was defeating General Haidon, she had had some nice moments for sure but she isn’t Akou level. I’m not kidding you when I tell you Rokuomi could’ve probably pulled off what she and Shin did to Haidon and Rokuomi is a tier below Akou
The reason I think she did better is that Duke had to go kamikaze to break Houken's arm and before that was send flying by his blows.
So? Gu Nei can also use Ousen's formations, but I don't see anyone treating it like it's a big deal. In practice A Kou shown two formations in which neither one could help him defeat Kyoukai.
I never said that, but it shows that in some aspects of tactical insight she could be considered better then them.
You just love to strawman, don't you?
Sanyou Kyoukai being able to read and counter tactic of a strategist on the level of head of military affairs is a tactical feat above anything Akou shown. This is a fact.
Extreme diff? Where did you get this? She did a short work of them. Her charge being this good was stated by the narrator of the manga. If you have problem with that, blaim Hara, not me.
If thats all she did, then she wouldn't be credited for Nanyou alongside Tou, wouldn't she?
So? Gu Nei can also use Ousen's formations, but I don't see anyone treating it like it's a big deal. In practice A Kou shown two formations in which neither one could help him defeat Kyoukai.
I never said that, but it shows that in some aspects of tactical insight she could be considered better then them.
You just love to strawman, don't you?
Sanyou Kyoukai being able to read and counter tactic of a strategist on the level of head of military affairs is a tactical feat above anything Akou shown. This is a fact.
Extreme diff? Where did you get this? She did a short work of them. Her charge being this good was stated by the narrator of the manga. If you have problem with that, blaim Hara, not me.
If thats all she did, then she wouldn't be credited for Nanyou alongside Tou, wouldn't she?
1. Gunei being able to use Ousen’s formations is a big deal in its own right, that alone probably puts him above the vast majority of average generals like Haidon. Gunei wasn’t a scrub lol.
2. The big difference is that Gunei himself outright said he wasn’t as proficient as Akou or Ousen at those tactics, so Gunei himself limited his own level. Whereas Akou was specifically said to be able to perfectly replicate multiple Ousen level tactics.
Not really lmfao, Ousen himself is a better military mind than every head of military in China with the exception of Riboku and maybe current Shouheikun, and Akou can replicate multiple of his tactics to perfection.
It’s an apples to oranges comparison for sure, comparing someone who can use multiple six GG tactics perfectly to someone who is capable of reading a countering them, but you are really underrating Akou. Generals who can replicate multiple 6GG/3GH tactics are rare.
She targeted Haidon on day one of the Han battle, this was specifically told to us. She also failed to reach him on day one of the Han battle, this was also specifically told to us. For comparison, Gyou’Un negged Gunei using mini-Ousen tactics in less than 30 minutes.
It factually took Kyoukai two days of battle to reach Haidon, and she had Shin’s help on day two of the battle. Somebody like Gyou’Un would have eaten Haidon in an hour or less and Akou is on a similar level to Gyou’Un.
2. The big difference is that Gunei himself outright said he wasn’t as proficient as Akou or Ousen at those tactics, so Gunei himself limited his own level. Whereas Akou was specifically said to be able to perfectly replicate multiple Ousen level tactics.
Not really lmfao, Ousen himself is a better military mind than every head of military in China with the exception of Riboku and maybe current Shouheikun, and Akou can replicate multiple of his tactics to perfection.
It’s an apples to oranges comparison for sure, comparing someone who can use multiple six GG tactics perfectly to someone who is capable of reading a countering them, but you are really underrating Akou. Generals who can replicate multiple 6GG/3GH tactics are rare.
She targeted Haidon on day one of the Han battle, this was specifically told to us. She also failed to reach him on day one of the Han battle, this was also specifically told to us. For comparison, Gyou’Un negged Gunei using mini-Ousen tactics in less than 30 minutes.
It factually took Kyoukai two days of battle to reach Haidon, and she had Shin’s help on day two of the battle. Somebody like Gyou’Un would have eaten Haidon in an hour or less and Akou is on a similar level to Gyou’Un.
Gunei can use a number of formations to a certain level, but nothing compared to Akou.
His hype and portrayal is certainly not at the level of Haidon, whom Hara said was ‘exceptional at defence’, and whom ultimately only lost because of an attack by the entire HSU in a three wave tactic, which included the best offensive charge on the plains that China had witnessed in years, according to the author.
We should also take into account the approach that Akou would use. His go-to method is a direct, offensive approach. This battle would likely be two, brutal attacks from either side.
His hype and portrayal is certainly not at the level of Haidon, whom Hara said was ‘exceptional at defence’, and whom ultimately only lost because of an attack by the entire HSU in a three wave tactic, which included the best offensive charge on the plains that China had witnessed in years, according to the author.
We should also take into account the approach that Akou would use. His go-to method is a direct, offensive approach. This battle would likely be two, brutal attacks from either side.
It’s like yall don’t even read lmfao.
Gunei being able to use mini-Ousen tactics curb stomps anything a nobody like Haidon can ever dream of. Gunei was never said to be “nothing” compared to Akou, just not quite as good.
Haidon is probably like a Rihaku ish level commander, good but not even close to 6GG level.
Gunei being able to use mini-Ousen tactics curb stomps anything a nobody like Haidon can ever dream of. Gunei was never said to be “nothing” compared to Akou, just not quite as good.
Haidon is probably like a Rihaku ish level commander, good but not even close to 6GG level.
Bro if Gunei can use 6GG level tactics, even if him doing so is “not quite on Akou’s level”, that still puts him tiers above standard generals like Haidon. You just completely made up him being nowhere near Akou’s level when that’s never what the manga stated.
This gaslighting to make Shitkai even remotely close to Akou is shameless.
This gaslighting to make Shitkai even remotely close to Akou is shameless.