Whats good everybody, after the Smoker hype thread, to balance it out let's take a look at one of the newest Marine characters, Tensei as I told the bruhz @SakazOuki a long time ago that I would. I've been doing my little research on this character and everything related to him that we know so far with OP-verse info and the info on which his character is based off of. So this is my speculation on where Tensei stands in the world of one piece and the future regarding his character.
His Role:
His role in the Marines is being the Director of the Marine Bureau of Investigation, As some of you might be able to tell from the name itself this is basically the CIA/FBI of the Marines. What really stands out to me regarding this is the following:
- Earlier int he story we've had the Science Division Unit being introduced, with it's leader being Sentomaru
- Then we have had the Marines Secret Special Forces Unit: SWORD being introduced, with it's leader being Drake X
These are units within the Marines led by some of their rising stars. The leaders of these units are referred to as "Captains", separate from the marine rank of 'captain'. But the difference here is that Tensei is a Director, not simply a captain. Implying that the Marine Bureau of Investigation is not some small unit like the Science Division (which included an army of Pacifistas and buncha fodder marines) or the SWORD (which are huge in themselves boasting at least 20 members), but a fully fleshed at branch/organization within the Marines.
So he holds a very important role within the marines, even though we don't know the full scope of the Bureau of Investigation. Mind you he's based off a character who leads a whole coalition in that said movie (Battles without Honor and Humanity), so I expect the Bureau to be a fairly large organization within the Marines.
Portrayal and Connections with other Top Tiers:
Now let's get to the main thing here which is where does he stand within the Marines when it comes to sheer prowess.
Zodiac importance:
- Pre-Ts we're introduced to 3 admirals who're based on japanese actors and have an alias related to the Zodiac. The Red Dog, Yellow Monkey, Blue Pheasant.
- Post-TS in Dressrosa we're introduced to two new admiral who are based on japanese actors and have aliases related to the Zodiac. The Purple Tiger & Green Bull.
- Then shortly after that we're introduced through the SBS to two other marine character who were considered for the position of admiral but were not selected, Pink Rabbit and Brown Pig. These characters are then brought up during the reverie with conversing with Garp.
- Then about 130+ chapters later, we're introduced to another marine character, designed after a japanese actor with the alias of Black Horse.
Oda's treatment of Chaton, Gion, Tensei at the very least gives them the portrayal of being on the same level or comparable to the admirals. Despite people's attempts at using things that they're ignorant to, like "chaton and gion are weak bums since Issho and Aramaki joined and bypassed them" or "if these guys were that strong marines wouldn't need to draft". But these reasonings, excuse my language, are low Iq reasonings. They rely on nothing but raw ignorance of events rather than something concrete, we're not given any reasonings as to why Aramaki and Issho were made admirals over them. All we know is despite not being admirals, the Marines gave them aliases just like the 5 characters introduced before them who were all admirals. All we know is despite not being admirals, Oda is designing them after legendary japanese actors just like the 5 characters introduced before them who were all admirals. So they should be same level or around to the level of the admirals. Now let's get into Tensei specifically...
Chapter 1054 Portrayal:
Fleet Admiral's office: Prior to this chapter, there have been 2 individuals who I recall sitting on the couch and conversing with the Fleet Admiral in his office. There was the situation with Garp doing so with Sengoku where they talk about Luffy's Ennis Lobby stuff. We then have Borsalino being introduced with sitting on the couch in Sengoku's office when Sengoku orders him to go to Sabody. Then post-TS we have the scene of Borsalino-Sakazuki where Borsalino offers to go to Wano. Last but not least we have this scene with Tensei in chapter 1054. So off his intro, he's being put in a similar situation/scene that has only happened before with Marine Top Tiers from what I can recall.
"Equals": In 'Battles without Honor and Humanity' Shozo Hirono (Akainu's reference) and Akira Takeda (Tensei' reference) after being on the opposing sides for a long time and being responsible for the deaths of various underlings of the other, end up retiring together (well Akira retires a bit before Hirono, but same movie) in a scene where Akira offers Shozo a drink with the latter declining because of guilt for the dead "Family" members. They essentially end the series as being entities of similar importance. Now that's in the movie, yea... so let's get back to chapter 1054 of the series.
In One Piece Vivre Cards, we're told that Ben Beckman is somebody who's existence is comparable to the Emperor Shanks himself with many powerful warriors of the new world fearing him. In chapter 1054, before we see the Marines conversation scene, we actually have a scene between Ben Beckman and Shanks, that ends with the two sitting together and drinking. With Shanks telling Beck it's time that they move for the One Piece..
Right after that scene we move on the Marines scene. Which starts off with Tensei giving the run down of the reverie events. And similarly just like a page before, we have a scene with a Tensei and Akainu sitting on chairs with table between them, discussing important events... and they're also drinking (two glasses on the table). In the scene with Beckman-Shanks... Beckman is the one holding the newspaper... in this scene it's Tensei holding the newspaper.
Similarly how in the previous scene with Beck-Shanks, Beckman and Shanks get the bigger highlighted panels, despite there being rest of the crew. In this scene, Borsalino gets two panels... both of which are smaller than the focused panels of Tensei and Akainu.
Now maybe all this is just coincidence yea, from the roles of their actors in Oda's favorite movie(s) to this chapter 1054 sequences and layout. But Oda drops the sbs below. Oda tells us that Sakazuki and Tensei are speaking to one another as equals. Not as subordinate and higher-ranking officer...but as equals. Mind you, Akainu is the fucking fleet admiral. Now there's two reasons Akainu would speak to him as his equal because of the position holds being that important.... or this the mothafucka Tensei is him.
NOW HOW STRONG DO I THINK HE IS?? SHIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..... I ain't tryna kick on a deadhorse, but aye man... I think he's stronger than a specific YC at the very least. Now whether he's stronger than some of the actual admirals? Who knows, but at the very least I think he's on their level.
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Also, I just want to say, just because Oda introduces certain characters earlier in the series, doesn't mean he didn't have plans for characters later down in the series. This is specifically referring to this myth people have for the Marines where they think the "C3" are the most important admirals. Oda has been thinking about the Admirals storyline since before chapter 100, before any of the admirals were introduced. Over that time he's gone through multiple ideas regarding the admirals (as stated by himself). So for all we know this mf was the 1st dude he thought of making when thinking about Akainu as an admiral. Especially when taking into account Borsalino/Tensei/Saka is the trio from his favorite movie. So yea...
ANYWHO, LET ME KNOW Y'ALLS OPINON, AGREED OR DISAGREED OR ANY ADDING ON Y'ALL WANT TO DO.
His Role:
His role in the Marines is being the Director of the Marine Bureau of Investigation, As some of you might be able to tell from the name itself this is basically the CIA/FBI of the Marines. What really stands out to me regarding this is the following:
- Earlier int he story we've had the Science Division Unit being introduced, with it's leader being Sentomaru
- Then we have had the Marines Secret Special Forces Unit: SWORD being introduced, with it's leader being Drake X
These are units within the Marines led by some of their rising stars. The leaders of these units are referred to as "Captains", separate from the marine rank of 'captain'. But the difference here is that Tensei is a Director, not simply a captain. Implying that the Marine Bureau of Investigation is not some small unit like the Science Division (which included an army of Pacifistas and buncha fodder marines) or the SWORD (which are huge in themselves boasting at least 20 members), but a fully fleshed at branch/organization within the Marines.
So he holds a very important role within the marines, even though we don't know the full scope of the Bureau of Investigation. Mind you he's based off a character who leads a whole coalition in that said movie (Battles without Honor and Humanity), so I expect the Bureau to be a fairly large organization within the Marines.
Portrayal and Connections with other Top Tiers:
Now let's get to the main thing here which is where does he stand within the Marines when it comes to sheer prowess.
Zodiac importance:
- Pre-Ts we're introduced to 3 admirals who're based on japanese actors and have an alias related to the Zodiac. The Red Dog, Yellow Monkey, Blue Pheasant.
- Post-TS in Dressrosa we're introduced to two new admiral who are based on japanese actors and have aliases related to the Zodiac. The Purple Tiger & Green Bull.
- Then shortly after that we're introduced through the SBS to two other marine character who were considered for the position of admiral but were not selected, Pink Rabbit and Brown Pig. These characters are then brought up during the reverie with conversing with Garp.
- Then about 130+ chapters later, we're introduced to another marine character, designed after a japanese actor with the alias of Black Horse.
Oda's treatment of Chaton, Gion, Tensei at the very least gives them the portrayal of being on the same level or comparable to the admirals. Despite people's attempts at using things that they're ignorant to, like "chaton and gion are weak bums since Issho and Aramaki joined and bypassed them" or "if these guys were that strong marines wouldn't need to draft". But these reasonings, excuse my language, are low Iq reasonings. They rely on nothing but raw ignorance of events rather than something concrete, we're not given any reasonings as to why Aramaki and Issho were made admirals over them. All we know is despite not being admirals, the Marines gave them aliases just like the 5 characters introduced before them who were all admirals. All we know is despite not being admirals, Oda is designing them after legendary japanese actors just like the 5 characters introduced before them who were all admirals. So they should be same level or around to the level of the admirals. Now let's get into Tensei specifically...
Chapter 1054 Portrayal:
Fleet Admiral's office: Prior to this chapter, there have been 2 individuals who I recall sitting on the couch and conversing with the Fleet Admiral in his office. There was the situation with Garp doing so with Sengoku where they talk about Luffy's Ennis Lobby stuff. We then have Borsalino being introduced with sitting on the couch in Sengoku's office when Sengoku orders him to go to Sabody. Then post-TS we have the scene of Borsalino-Sakazuki where Borsalino offers to go to Wano. Last but not least we have this scene with Tensei in chapter 1054. So off his intro, he's being put in a similar situation/scene that has only happened before with Marine Top Tiers from what I can recall.
"Equals": In 'Battles without Honor and Humanity' Shozo Hirono (Akainu's reference) and Akira Takeda (Tensei' reference) after being on the opposing sides for a long time and being responsible for the deaths of various underlings of the other, end up retiring together (well Akira retires a bit before Hirono, but same movie) in a scene where Akira offers Shozo a drink with the latter declining because of guilt for the dead "Family" members. They essentially end the series as being entities of similar importance. Now that's in the movie, yea... so let's get back to chapter 1054 of the series.
In One Piece Vivre Cards, we're told that Ben Beckman is somebody who's existence is comparable to the Emperor Shanks himself with many powerful warriors of the new world fearing him. In chapter 1054, before we see the Marines conversation scene, we actually have a scene between Ben Beckman and Shanks, that ends with the two sitting together and drinking. With Shanks telling Beck it's time that they move for the One Piece..
Right after that scene we move on the Marines scene. Which starts off with Tensei giving the run down of the reverie events. And similarly just like a page before, we have a scene with a Tensei and Akainu sitting on chairs with table between them, discussing important events... and they're also drinking (two glasses on the table). In the scene with Beckman-Shanks... Beckman is the one holding the newspaper... in this scene it's Tensei holding the newspaper.
Similarly how in the previous scene with Beck-Shanks, Beckman and Shanks get the bigger highlighted panels, despite there being rest of the crew. In this scene, Borsalino gets two panels... both of which are smaller than the focused panels of Tensei and Akainu.
Now maybe all this is just coincidence yea, from the roles of their actors in Oda's favorite movie(s) to this chapter 1054 sequences and layout. But Oda drops the sbs below. Oda tells us that Sakazuki and Tensei are speaking to one another as equals. Not as subordinate and higher-ranking officer...but as equals. Mind you, Akainu is the fucking fleet admiral. Now there's two reasons Akainu would speak to him as his equal because of the position holds being that important.... or this the mothafucka Tensei is him.
NOW HOW STRONG DO I THINK HE IS?? SHIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..... I ain't tryna kick on a deadhorse, but aye man... I think he's stronger than a specific YC at the very least. Now whether he's stronger than some of the actual admirals? Who knows, but at the very least I think he's on their level.
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Also, I just want to say, just because Oda introduces certain characters earlier in the series, doesn't mean he didn't have plans for characters later down in the series. This is specifically referring to this myth people have for the Marines where they think the "C3" are the most important admirals. Oda has been thinking about the Admirals storyline since before chapter 100, before any of the admirals were introduced. Over that time he's gone through multiple ideas regarding the admirals (as stated by himself). So for all we know this mf was the 1st dude he thought of making when thinking about Akainu as an admiral. Especially when taking into account Borsalino/Tensei/Saka is the trio from his favorite movie. So yea...
ANYWHO, LET ME KNOW Y'ALLS OPINON, AGREED OR DISAGREED OR ANY ADDING ON Y'ALL WANT TO DO.
. Regardless, In the end he was still portrayed as fodder to her.