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That's nice but how does it debunk my point that Yamato was in base form against Aramaki and in Hybrid form against Kaido?
Kaido was also in hybrid form, so their hybrid forms cancel each other out as Kaido should be more durable with his fruit.

So yes Ryokugyu is more durable than at least base Kaido without a doubt.

Kizaru factually is just exponentially more durable than Kaido, we don’t even need to discuss him. Kizaru didn’t even bruise from white star gun while Kaido bled from base Luffy
 
Kaido was also in hybrid form, so their hybrid forms cancel each other out as Kaido should be more durable with his fruit.

So yes Ryokugyu is more durable than at least base Kaido without a doubt.

Kizaru factually is just exponentially more durable than Kaido, we don’t even need to discuss him. Kizaru didn’t even bruise from white star gun while Kaido bled from base Luffy
And here i thought Zoro/Hawk fans were the most deluded part of the fanbase
 
Figuring out who's Yamato's mother is a basic math now, since Teach can't be Gloriosa's child, given the fact that his last name "Marshall D" probably came from his mother
Rocks × Marshall D. ???
Newgate x Stussy
Kaido x Gloriosa
You assuming Teach knows who his true mother is and probably who his father is.

What if he doesn't and waas raised at the streets? Or like someone else took care of him without knowing a thing about him?
 
More details of the chapter, thanks to redon from Arlong Park Forums. Chapter of 17 pages.

- Chapter 1,153: “The birth of Loki”.

- Ogre Child Yamato's Golden Harvest Surrogate Pilgrimage, Vol. 37: “Meeting Kikunojo, the Daimyou of Ringo, and the yakuza boss O-Chō”.

- Chapter starts seeing Harald’s childhood with Dorry and Brogy. Harald was born strong and bigger than others so he became very spoiled.

- One day Harald saw a female giant named “Ida” captured and used as a circus show in one human town. So Harald destroyed the town and released her. Ida had freckles on her face and thick lips, and she also had a ponytail (she’s very different from women Oda usually draws).

Ida: “Who are you?”

Harald: “Oh no need for thanks!! I am the king of Elbaph after all!! Can’t let them make fun of my homeland!!”

- Suddenly, Ida slapped Harald very hard in the face. Harald was in shock with a very funny face looool

- Turns out that Ida was saved by the humans of that town when she was shipwrecked, so she was working with them willingly all along. Ida taught Harald that he's not better than anyone else just because he was born strong. Because of her Harald became a better person and started to take interest in other cultures.

- Harald brought Ida back to Elbaph and he wanted to marry Ida, but the giant elders forbid it because she wasn't Elbaph blood. So Ida lived in a village in Elbaph, while Harald became a new person and started diplomacy with other countries (like Ryugu Kingdom in Fishman Island).

- Some years later Ida gave birth to Hajrudin but Harald was arranged by giant elders to marry “Estrida”, the daughter of a high positioned giant.

Estrida: “I was born in the Alcohol Village in the northern lands, and I have been studying Di Feng.
I have seen that I’m destined to be loved and cherished by your majesty!! Please forget about that girl from the east and the child.”

Harald: “Ahh… No… I can’t really do that…”

- Estrida was a very beautiful giant woman dressed with dancer clothes (similar to Nami and Vivi in Arabasta). She was obsessed with “Di Feng” (probably the One Piece version of “Feng Shui”) so she ordered to close/open windows and change the furniture in the castle.

- Some time later (when Harald was overseas) Estrida gave birth to Loki, a baby with demonic eyes (his eyes looked like Sauron’s). She got panicked and decided to throw Loki down to the Underworld. Then Estrida ordered the servants to tell king Harald that the baby was born dead.

- Then, in the EPIC final double page of the chapter, we see baby Loki crying while was crawling up the Treasure Tree Adam. Baby Loki was very injured because he fougth againts some of the beast from the Underworld.

Loki: “Aah… Aah…”

- Chapter ends seeing Estrida in the castle, Harald traveling in the sea and Ida/Hajrudin in the giant village while the narrator speaks.

Narrator:【From Queen Estrida falling into sickness…】

Estrida: “Remove that child from this world… Indeed it has been foretold even before his birth…!!
That one day King Harald “will be killed by his own son”!!”

Soldier: “You are bringing up that nonsense again, Your Highness...!!”

Narrator:【to Harald being troubled by the wall that exists between countries…】

Harald: “The “World Government” getting in my way again… Why can’t the countries act freely!!?”

Ida: “He’s your little brother, isn’t he!? Wouldn’t it be wonderful to meet him? Oh the baby ♡”

Hajrudin: “He’s not my brother!! He’s not mommy’s kid!!”

Ida: “Awww ♡ Everything you say is so cute ♡”

Narrator:【Every disaster that befalls Elbaph from these moments onward is now credited as part of “Loki’s Curse”.】

- End of chapter. BREAK next week.
 
More details of the chapter, thanks to redon from Arlong Park Forums. Chapter of 17 pages.

- Chapter 1,153: “The birth of Loki”.

- Ogre Child Yamato's Golden Harvest Surrogate Pilgrimage, Vol. 37: “Meeting Kikunojo, the Daimyou of Ringo, and the yakuza boss O-Chō”.

- Chapter starts seeing Harald’s childhood with Dorry and Brogy. Harald was born strong and bigger than others so he became very spoiled.

- One day Harald saw a female giant named “Ida” captured and used as a circus show in one human town. So Harald destroyed the town and released her. Ida had freckles on her face and thick lips, and she also had a ponytail (she’s very different from women Oda usually draws).

Ida: “Who are you?”

Harald: “Oh no need for thanks!! I am the king of Elbaph after all!! Can’t let them make fun of my homeland!!”

- Suddenly, Ida slapped Harald very hard in the face. Harald was in shock with a very funny face looool

- Turns out that Ida was saved by the humans of that town when she was shipwrecked, so she was working with them willingly all along. Ida taught Harald that he's not better than anyone else just because he was born strong. Because of her Harald became a better person and started to take interest in other cultures.

- Harald brought Ida back to Elbaph and he wanted to marry Ida, but the giant elders forbid it because she wasn't Elbaph blood. So Ida lived in a village in Elbaph, while Harald became a new person and started diplomacy with other countries (like Ryugu Kingdom in Fishman Island).

- Some years later Ida gave birth to Hajrudin but Harald was arranged by giant elders to marry “Estrida”, the daughter of a high positioned giant.

Estrida: “I was born in the Alcohol Village in the northern lands, and I have been studying Di Feng.
I have seen that I’m destined to be loved and cherished by your majesty!! Please forget about that girl from the east and the child.”


Harald: “Ahh… No… I can’t really do that…”

- Estrida was a very beautiful giant woman dressed with dancer clothes (similar to Nami and Vivi in Arabasta). She was obsessed with “Di Feng” (probably the One Piece version of “Feng Shui”) so she ordered to close/open windows and change the furniture in the castle.

- Some time later (when Harald was overseas) Estrida gave birth to Loki, a baby with demonic eyes (his eyes looked like Sauron’s). She got panicked and decided to throw Loki down to the Underworld. Then Estrida ordered the servants to tell king Harald that the baby was born dead.

- Then, in the EPIC final double page of the chapter, we see baby Loki crying while was crawling up the Treasure Tree Adam. Baby Loki was very injured because he fougth againts some of the beast from the Underworld.

Loki: “Aah… Aah…”

- Chapter ends seeing Estrida in the castle, Harald traveling in the sea and Ida/Hajrudin in the giant village while the narrator speaks.

Narrator:【From Queen Estrida falling into sickness…】

Estrida: “Remove that child from this world… Indeed it has been foretold even before his birth…!!
That one day King Harald “will be killed by his own son”!!”


Soldier: “You are bringing up that nonsense again, Your Highness...!!”

Narrator:【to Harald being troubled by the wall that exists between countries…】

Harald: “The “World Government” getting in my way again… Why can’t the countries act freely!!?”

Ida: “He’s your little brother, isn’t he!? Wouldn’t it be wonderful to meet him? Oh the baby ♡”

Hajrudin: “He’s not my brother!! He’s not mommy’s kid!!”

Ida: “Awww ♡ Everything you say is so cute ♡”

Narrator:【Every disaster that befalls Elbaph from these moments onward is now credited as part of “Loki’s Curse”.】

- End of chapter. BREAK next week.
bro why did you turn into monster zoro wtf
 
Proof that Oda just doesn’t care about the Yonko or the pirate kings
Their deaths are literally world-changing events that have the entire world scrambling.

The only character worthy of killing an Admiral is the literal strongest pirate of all time, and then two pirate kings had to gang up on him. No mere Yonko or pirate king could ever dream of that portrayal
There is absolutely nothing surprising about an Admiral getting merked by a rival of Roger.

I think a lot of you are getting carried the fuck away with the Rocks hype.

Nothing indicates he was anywhere near as strong as people are making him out to be. It's not like he was a jolly figure, so if he really was that strong, his subordinates would speak of him differently.

Again, Sengoku only speculated he could be considered Roger's greatest rival. That clearly puts him close to Prime Whitebeard, who was likely a shade weaker than Prime Roger.

 
Kaido was also in hybrid form, so their hybrid forms cancel each other out as Kaido should be more durable with his fruit.

So yes Ryokugyu is more durable than at least base Kaido without a doubt.

Kizaru factually is just exponentially more durable than Kaido, we don’t even need to discuss him. Kizaru didn’t even bruise from white star gun while Kaido bled from base Luffy
More durable than at least base Kaido? Why not Hybrid and Zoan too? What's with the uncertainty? Before this chapter the Admirals were supposed to be super durable god tiers.
 
Kaido was also in hybrid form, so their hybrid forms cancel each other out as Kaido should be more durable with his fruit.

So yes Ryokugyu is more durable than at least base Kaido without a doubt.

Kizaru factually is just exponentially more durable than Kaido, we don’t even need to discuss him. Kizaru didn’t even bruise from white star gun while Kaido bled from base Luffy
Don't forget Kuzan whose matched tanked Prime Garp ACoC punches...:Armstrong:
 
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