Speculations Koby will be revealed to be Roger’s grandson via a secret bastard son/daughter

#1
The key players of God Valley all have descendants who are key players in the final war.

Luffy is Garp’s grandson
Shanks and Shamrock are Garling’s sons
Teach is Xebec’s son

The only other key player in God valley who isn’t represented in the final war is Roger, who’s only descendant supposedly died in MF.

But what if this wasn’t the case? I think Koby being Roger’s grandson would make a lot of sense, as far as the plot goes.

In the one piece world, children are persecuted for the crimes of their parents and ancestors. This is a key policy of the world government, but even in wano, you can still see this ideology implemented. By the EoS, this needs to be resolved somehow.

One way this could be done is if the Hero of the new era was tied to the villain of the old era, whereas the villain of the new era is tied to the Hero of the old era. Enter Luffy and Koby. Luffy is the grandson of Garp the hero, yet he wants to be pirate king and he is Nika. The same Nika that is often viewed as a destroyer(regardless of if this is actually true). If Koby, the hero of this era, was the grandson of Roger, the villain of old, that would turn the WG’s narrative of bloodlines on its head.

It would prove one’s bloodline has no impact on if they are or aren’t a good person.
 
#5
smoker is the garp of this generation. one piece ends in a few weeks of inworld time. for koby to become a top tier in that short time, would be absurd. it would amount to growth many times that of luffy. without a legendary devilfruit, without a great bloodline and without fighting the same caliber of enemies.
 
#11
I think if Coby is likely to be anyone's secret son or relative it'll be the late Admiral Scissors who Rocks beat.

It'll probably be like a generational thing, Koby avenging Scissor's death at Xenec's hands by helping defeat Xebec's grandson.

And akainu is garp's secret son :suresure:
Nah it's Kizaru.

He's secretly Garp's real son Monkey D. Borsalino. Dragon is actually a rogue light clone who represents Kizaru's deep seated desire to dress like a hobo and not be a cog in the machine.

He also represents Kizaru's deep seated desire to make out with Hibari's mom, which is the real reason why Akainu hates Dragon so much.

This also why Kizaru keeps fighting Luffy. The mere sight of Luffy triggers his innate parental instincts, causing him to immediately try and kill him to avoid paying child support.

It's all connected you see.
:steef:
 
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The key players of God Valley all have descendants who are key players in the final war.

Luffy is Garp’s grandson
Shanks and Shamrock are Garling’s sons
Teach is Xebec’s son

The only other key player in God valley who isn’t represented in the final war is Roger, who’s only descendant supposedly died in MF.

But what if this wasn’t the case? I think Koby being Roger’s grandson would make a lot of sense, as far as the plot goes.

In the one piece world, children are persecuted for the crimes of their parents and ancestors. This is a key policy of the world government, but even in wano, you can still see this ideology implemented. By the EoS, this needs to be resolved somehow.

One way this could be done is if the Hero of the new era was tied to the villain of the old era, whereas the villain of the new era is tied to the Hero of the old era. Enter Luffy and Koby. Luffy is the grandson of Garp the hero, yet he wants to be pirate king and he is Nika. The same Nika that is often viewed as a destroyer(regardless of if this is actually true). If Koby, the hero of this era, was the grandson of Roger, the villain of old, that would turn the WG’s narrative of bloodlines on its head.

It would prove one’s bloodline has no impact on if they are or aren’t a good person.
I see where you are getting at. Hence why I always thought it made sense but ever since the whole koby having to train 20p times harder etc it gave me rocklee vibes. And I kinda just wanted him the be the random normal dude that really just put in the work no special genetics involved
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smoker is the garp of this generation. one piece ends in a few weeks of inworld time. for koby to become a top tier in that short time, would be absurd. it would amount to growth many times that of luffy. without a legendary devilfruit, without a great bloodline and without fighting the same caliber of enemies.
Oh boy people like you are about to get cooked lol. When thr straw hats leave elbaf and it's revealed via paper that 6 months or more passed while the straw hats were on elbaf (which shocks them) then you would be ina world of a ride
 
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