Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1155 Spoilers Discussion
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I see your point crystal clear, but you are willingly ignoring my point because I know you are smart enough to understand, Aokiji wasn't portrayed as "That close" to Aokiji on paper either, he was relegated to cheating to beat a YC2 and got tossed around by Marco while Akainu was portrayed as someone who can solo Whitebeard's entire crew.
But here is a thing tho, he did repeatedly portray Mihawk above Shanks
He spoon fed it to you through words again and again
Here is how Mihawk is introduced
This is how Mihawk's first meeting with Shanks on panel went
This is what Oda told us justification for Mihawk's Yonko Level Bounty
Even this "Sword skill" thing is Translator cope, in raw Japanese, he straight up says "Beyond Shanks"
This is one data book
This is another
When Oda is giving direct statement repeatedly not once
He hasn't even just given Mihawk the title and left it there, again and again he brings Shanks and paints him in inferior light to Mihawk in respective statements.
Mihawk's narrative and character conflict currently is that after Shanks lost an arm no one is strong enough to fight him.
So it is immature and childish approach to Manga to say Mihawk hasn't done what Shanks has done on panel.
Well no fucking shit, we haven't even seen Mihawk use conqueror's Haki or a named attack yet.
And Mihawk doesn't have a whole fleet, well now he does so if Cross Guild pulled up on an on-going war and Mihawk stopped Akianu, War is stopping as well.
3.6 Billion is not that far a threat level than 4 Billion.
But here is a thing tho, he did repeatedly portray Mihawk above Shanks
He spoon fed it to you through words again and again
Here is how Mihawk is introduced
This is how Mihawk's first meeting with Shanks on panel went
This is what Oda told us justification for Mihawk's Yonko Level Bounty
Even this "Sword skill" thing is Translator cope, in raw Japanese, he straight up says "Beyond Shanks"
This is one data book
This is another
When Oda is giving direct statement repeatedly not once
He hasn't even just given Mihawk the title and left it there, again and again he brings Shanks and paints him in inferior light to Mihawk in respective statements.
Mihawk's narrative and character conflict currently is that after Shanks lost an arm no one is strong enough to fight him.
So it is immature and childish approach to Manga to say Mihawk hasn't done what Shanks has done on panel.
Well no fucking shit, we haven't even seen Mihawk use conqueror's Haki or a named attack yet.
And Mihawk doesn't have a whole fleet, well now he does so if Cross Guild pulled up on an on-going war and Mihawk stopped Akianu, War is stopping as well.
3.6 Billion is not that far a threat level than 4 Billion.
I will say one thing Mihawk has over Shanks rn is his bounty. He has the most impressive bounty in the verse, so I still give him a chance to be above Shanks. This was the one glimmer of hope Oda gave me regarding Mihawk, insanely impressive standout bounty. The most impressive of currently alive characters given the context.
But keep a close eye on Kuzan's bounty, both are Yonkou underlings, if another top tier underling supplants Mihawk's bounty this will be another major sign from Oda that he doesn't see Mihawk as this dude who sits clearly at the top of the verse, but just among them at best.
I always thought it was kinda weird but at the same time it makes sense
Strength isn't necessarily integral to Shanks' character but a large chunk of his fans like him because he's cool and strong. That isn't the only reason and that doesn't apply to all of his fans but it applies to a lot of them
They call him Godking (easily the stupidest nickname in OP fandom history) for a reason. They love the thought of him being stronger and cooler than anyone including Mihawk, Roger, etc
I can't really blame them either with the way Shanks is written. Oda writes him to be the guy in almost any situation so naturally certain people latch onto that image of him
Strength isn't necessarily integral to Shanks' character but a large chunk of his fans like him because he's cool and strong. That isn't the only reason and that doesn't apply to all of his fans but it applies to a lot of them
They call him Godking (easily the stupidest nickname in OP fandom history) for a reason. They love the thought of him being stronger and cooler than anyone including Mihawk, Roger, etc
I can't really blame them either with the way Shanks is written. Oda writes him to be the guy in almost any situation so naturally certain people latch onto that image of him
If Marine Ford Mihawk was day dreaming and his feats and portrayal are still better than Akainu and Kizaru's.
The glacier slicing feat, the way Mihawk did is far above an admiral's pay grade and it remains top level feat even by post time skip standards where feats have inflated.
He was also given a lot more respect against commander he faced, monologing and ignoring him compared to commanders Akainu's equals were given.
2 Billion Max.
Also
-Title
-Zoro's Goal
-Black Blade
-One Armed Has Been
-Data Books
The glacier slicing feat, the way Mihawk did is far above an admiral's pay grade and it remains top level feat even by post time skip standards where feats have inflated.
He was also given a lot more respect against commander he faced, monologing and ignoring him compared to commanders Akainu's equals were given.
2 Billion Max.
Also
-Title
-Zoro's Goal
-Black Blade
-One Armed Has Been
-Data Books
His whole story from day 1 was to give up strength of purpose to believe in luffy
It took seeing the fucking mark on his arm for people to think he lost his arm ok purpose when we have said that for years.
Him being the strongest has never been stated or implied nor is it relevant for him and his character
If Mihawk retains the highest bounty under the current Yonkou, I think this would mean he's meant to sit at the current top with Akainu (and probably the God King the way things are going). Otherwise if Aokiji (an Akainu victim) takes even that claim from him, I won't buy into it anymore. Mihawk would be a legit top tier, but he's just in the mix with the rest.
Let's see how it plays out.
Let's see how it plays out.
Yes which is why I've held the opinion that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks for years now
The Shanks > Mihawk argument falls apart when you realize you have to jump through 100 hoops to make it make sense
First it's "the title isn't legitimate" -> "Mihawk never beat Shanks so we don't know" -> "Oda said the title is real but it doesn't apply to Shanks because he isn't actually a swordsman" -> acceptance should be here but it'll never happen
But I also find it funny that Zoro fans give life to the arguments by responding. You know the truth or at least you believe you know the truth so why do you argue about it constantly
I just don't see the point
The Shanks > Mihawk argument falls apart when you realize you have to jump through 100 hoops to make it make sense
First it's "the title isn't legitimate" -> "Mihawk never beat Shanks so we don't know" -> "Oda said the title is real but it doesn't apply to Shanks because he isn't actually a swordsman" -> acceptance should be here but it'll never happen
But I also find it funny that Zoro fans give life to the arguments by responding. You know the truth or at least you believe you know the truth so why do you argue about it constantly
I just don't see the point
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