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More details of the chapter, thanks to redon from Arlong Park Forums. Chapter of 17 pages.

- Chapter 1,155 : “Xebec Rocks”.

- Ogre Child Yamato's Golden Harvest Surrogate Pilgrimage, Vol. 38: “Please go visit the grave of the hero born in “West Blue” and raised in Ringo”. O-Chō and Kikunojo take Yamato, Ulti and Page One to a grave in ruins that we hadn't seen before.

- Chapter starts with a little summary of Big Mom incident when she was a child. Then we see that many disasters befall Elbaph. A massive snowstorm prevented crops from being harvested and giants were also unable to fish or hunt, which brought famine to Elbaph.

- Baby Loki managed to return to the castle but Queen Estrid didn’t want to see him. Baby Loki tried to hug his mother (he broke the door to enter in Estrid's room) but Estrid, full of hatred, rejected him. Baby Loki cried desperately as the soldiers took him out of the room.

Estrid: "It was all his fault!!! It's because we didn't kill him immediately that this nation is now cursed!!
Get him out!! Never let that monster near me again!!!
And destroy his eyes!! Or else everything will be cursed!! The end of this nation is closing on us!!!"

Giant soldiers: "Prince Loki!! You mustn't go near your mother's room."

Loki: "Ahh!! Ahhhhhh!!"

- Due to disasters, Elbaph was on a brink of destruction. Giants tried to attack Hajrudin because he was related to “cursed Prince Loki” but Harald returned to Elbaph just in time to help Hajrudin and Ida.

Harald: "My brothers, do not hurt each other!!
The same time I received news that Loki is borne, I also heard of the famine that is raging through this nation!!
I immediately discussed that issue with countries whom we have a diplomatic relationship with...
And with just that they filled their ships with food!! No question asked!!!
The humans are all so small compared to us...!! But several countries worked together and are delivering food that is enough to fill even the belly of us giants!! Let's accept their help!! And eat the food with gratitude!!!
And one day when they need our help, let's give it to them all!!! It's a small world that we all share!!!"

- In an AMAZING double page wee see ton of human ships arriving to Elbaph. All of them transported massive bags full of food to help the giants.

- Estrid died right before Harald came back to Elbaph (we see Harald crying at the funeral). Ida decided to moved to the “Underworld” and built a bar (where we saw Colon and Shanks in the present).

- Harald was busy with developing roads to connect Elbaph villages and end all fightings in the country. So Loki grew up with Estrid’s younger brother (no name for this character yet) who also abused him. Some time later, it seems this man was killed by creatures from the “Underworld”.

- To prevent more problems, giant soldiers covered Loki's eyes claiming he had an eye disease.

- Cut to 56 years ago at Jarul's house. Harald and Jarul were talking about conflicts between giants and World Government.

Jarul: "Harald, you were at the “Levely” where THAT INCIDENT occurred!?"

Harald: "Yeah... I asked a king who's my friend to help me sneak in as a soldier.
In the end my requests fell on deaf ears...!! If that murder didn't occur... I may have been arrested."

Jarul: "Just being arrested would have been nothing... how ruthless.
 
Xebec’s portrayal is just too much for Roger and WB to be on his level.

He had 3/4s of the future emperors and Shiki following him after submitting them in Davy Back fights.

He side quest diff’d an admiral, had the biggest haki clash in the series, then faced down the king of the world and yapped about Davy Jones.

He lost to the combined might of Roger, Garp, and who knows what else.

Like just portrayal wise there’s no one above Xebec other than Imu, Joyboy, and maybe Davy Jones
Half dead old WB made Akainu his bitch lol. Shanks wifi diffed GB.
 
More details of the chapter, thanks to redon from Arlong Park Forums. Chapter of 17 pages.

- Chapter 1,155 : “Xebec Rocks”.

- Ogre Child Yamato's Golden Harvest Surrogate Pilgrimage, Vol. 38: “Please go visit the grave of the hero born in “West Blue” and raised in Ringo”. O-Chō and Kikunojo take Yamato, Ulti and Page One to a grave in ruins that we hadn't seen before.

- Chapter starts with a little summary of Big Mom incident when she was a child. Then we see that many disasters befall Elbaph. A massive snowstorm prevented crops from being harvested and giants were also unable to fish or hunt, which brought famine to Elbaph.

- Baby Loki managed to return to the castle but Queen Estrid didn’t want to see him. Baby Loki tried to hug his mother (he broke the door to enter in Estrid's room) but Estrid, full of hatred, rejected him. Baby Loki cried desperately as the soldiers took him out of the room.

Estrid: "It was all his fault!!! It's because we didn't kill him immediately that this nation is now cursed!!
Get him out!! Never let that monster near me again!!!
And destroy his eyes!! Or else everything will be cursed!! The end of this nation is closing on us!!!"


Giant soldiers: "Prince Loki!! You mustn't go near your mother's room."

Loki: "Ahh!! Ahhhhhh!!"

- Due to disasters, Elbaph was on a brink of destruction. Giants tried to attack Hajrudin because he was related to “cursed Prince Loki” but Harald returned to Elbaph just in time to help Hajrudin and Ida.

Harald: "My brothers, do not hurt each other!!
The same time I received news that Loki is borne, I also heard of the famine that is raging through this nation!!
I immediately discussed that issue with countries whom we have a diplomatic relationship with...
And with just that they filled their ships with food!! No question asked!!!
The humans are all so small compared to us...!! But several countries worked together and are delivering food that is enough to fill even the belly of us giants!! Let's accept their help!! And eat the food with gratitude!!!
And one day when they need our help, let's give it to them all!!! It's a small world that we all share!!!"


- In an AMAZING double page wee see ton of human ships arriving to Elbaph. All of them transported massive bags full of food to help the giants.

- Estrid died right before Harald came back to Elbaph (we see Harald crying at the funeral). Ida decided to moved to the “Underworld” and built a bar (where we saw Colon and Shanks in the present).

- Harald was busy with developing roads to connect Elbaph villages and end all fightings in the country. So Loki grew up with Estrid’s younger brother (no name for this character yet) who also abused him. Some time later, it seems this man was killed by creatures from the “Underworld”.

- To prevent more problems, giant soldiers covered Loki's eyes claiming he had an eye disease.

- Cut to 56 years ago at Jarul's house. Harald and Jarul were talking about conflicts between giants and World Government.

Jarul: "Harald, you were at the “Levely” where THAT INCIDENT occurred!?"

Harald: "Yeah... I asked a king who's my friend to help me sneak in as a soldier.
In the end my requests fell on deaf ears...!! If that murder didn't occur... I may have been arrested."


Jarul: "Just being arrested would have been nothing... how ruthless.
Even Sanji gag is better than your gag
 
I think there are two D lineages.

1 - The descendants of Joy Boy's will
This includes the descendants of the D who are "free" and want to free the world, like Luffy or even Dragon.


2 - The descendants of Davy Jones' will
This includes the more "evil" Ds who want to CONTROL THE WORLD, like Xebec who wants to be King of the World or even Teach, who apparently follows the same path as his father.


Anyway, this would explain the dual interpretation of the legend of Nika, which some associate with a warrior of liberation and others with an evil being who brings oppression, as the children of Elbaf associate him with.
 
More details of the chapter, thanks to redon from Arlong Park Forums. Chapter of 17 pages.

- Chapter 1,155 : “Xebec Rocks”.

- Ogre Child Yamato's Golden Harvest Surrogate Pilgrimage, Vol. 38: “Please go visit the grave of the hero born in “West Blue” and raised in Ringo”. O-Chō and Kikunojo take Yamato, Ulti and Page One to a grave in ruins that we hadn't seen before.

- Chapter starts with a little summary of Big Mom incident when she was a child. Then we see that many disasters befall Elbaph. A massive snowstorm prevented crops from being harvested and giants were also unable to fish or hunt, which brought famine to Elbaph.

- Baby Loki managed to return to the castle but Queen Estrid didn’t want to see him. Baby Loki tried to hug his mother (he broke the door to enter in Estrid's room) but Estrid, full of hatred, rejected him. Baby Loki cried desperately as the soldiers took him out of the room.

Estrid: "It was all his fault!!! It's because we didn't kill him immediately that this nation is now cursed!!
Get him out!! Never let that monster near me again!!!
And destroy his eyes!! Or else everything will be cursed!! The end of this nation is closing on us!!!"


Giant soldiers: "Prince Loki!! You mustn't go near your mother's room."

Loki: "Ahh!! Ahhhhhh!!"

- Due to disasters, Elbaph was on a brink of destruction. Giants tried to attack Hajrudin because he was related to “cursed Prince Loki” but Harald returned to Elbaph just in time to help Hajrudin and Ida.

Harald: "My brothers, do not hurt each other!!
The same time I received news that Loki is borne, I also heard of the famine that is raging through this nation!!
I immediately discussed that issue with countries whom we have a diplomatic relationship with...
And with just that they filled their ships with food!! No question asked!!!
The humans are all so small compared to us...!! But several countries worked together and are delivering food that is enough to fill even the belly of us giants!! Let's accept their help!! And eat the food with gratitude!!!
And one day when they need our help, let's give it to them all!!! It's a small world that we all share!!!"


- In an AMAZING double page wee see ton of human ships arriving to Elbaph. All of them transported massive bags full of food to help the giants.

- Estrid died right before Harald came back to Elbaph (we see Harald crying at the funeral). Ida decided to moved to the “Underworld” and built a bar (where we saw Colon and Shanks in the present).

- Harald was busy with developing roads to connect Elbaph villages and end all fightings in the country. So Loki grew up with Estrid’s younger brother (no name for this character yet) who also abused him. Some time later, it seems this man was killed by creatures from the “Underworld”.

- To prevent more problems, giant soldiers covered Loki's eyes claiming he had an eye disease.

- Cut to 56 years ago at Jarul's house. Harald and Jarul were talking about conflicts between giants and World Government.

Jarul: "Harald, you were at the “Levely” where THAT INCIDENT occurred!?"

Harald: "Yeah... I asked a king who's my friend to help me sneak in as a soldier.
In the end my requests fell on deaf ears...!! If that murder didn't occur... I may have been arrested."


Jarul: "Just being arrested would have been nothing... how ruthless.
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I think that's a myth. It has nothing to do with values. You can have good moral values and still value physical and romantic intimacy, e.g. with your wife. Obivously nothing lasts forever, but I don't get this argument. Why having friends and social interaction at all? Why having a family? If you'll die anyways. It's a nihilistic point of view that doesn't hold up. Yeah, in my 70s and 80s I probably won't care about it, doesn't mean I can't care about it in my youth.
No, I mean, you’ll look for fulfillment through a lot of other shit. That’ll change with your age bracket, and who you hang around with, you mature.

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That’s why I said twenties to thirties, worrying about that will be very relevant. You’ll get fixated on it if you lacked ANY romantic experience in your youth. But your average older person (like 40s and up) give way less shit on their desirability. They have way more responsibilities, and have families, probably piled up some or enough experience to not be fixated on it anymore.
 
Xebec’s portrayal is just too much for Roger and WB to be on his level.

He had 3/4s of the future emperors and Shiki following him after submitting them in Davy Back fights.

He side quest diff’d an admiral, had the biggest haki clash in the series, then faced down the king of the world and yapped about Davy Jones.

He lost to the combined might of Roger, Garp, and who knows what else.

Like just portrayal wise there’s no one above Xebec other than Imu, Joyboy, and maybe Davy Jones
Doesn't really matter.

In a few arcs a bunch of characters will overshadow Xebec's feats cuz it needs to happen.

I doubt Luffy or Blackbeard will start to neg diff Admirals or the other Emperors left and right because Gorosei & HK are ass and Oda needs some good & strong antagonists.
 
How you do that?..

Can you point to when that was mentioned?..

Yoru is a higher Grade than Shusui and they are both Black Blades.. It suggest that Mihawk is stronger than Ryuma was..


So you agree that it's not all about Strength?..


no, the grade is irrelevant in this case, any sword can become a black blade
meaning any blade can become part of the most elite blades in existence.

At that point just how important is the make of the sword? especially if we're comparing great grade to supreme grade, you'd think the difference then is negligible, at-least that's what I think, you shouldn't' somehow be stunted because you happened to find a lesser grade, despite making a black blade with your own strength, they are literally on another league entirely.

You're assuming somehow that means mihawk was stronger simply because the make of his sword is of better quality. That doesn't equate to how strong their spirit/soul/haki is.

WB for example referred to luffy once as a mass of spirit but all talk. This ties into how we see scopper telling off zoro for not even utilising his haki, that's just leaking to waste. Mihawk and Ryuuma have mastered using their spirit in their swordsmanship, or rather their souls have become aligned with their blades to a level no one else has achieved.

As to who's spirit is stronger, I don't know.
 
I just want you all to know that the only reson why People even talk about who is a Swordsman or not is Zoro. its not even Mihawk, its Zoro himself they scared about. the Anti Zoro agenda always tried to cap him at a lvl so they say everything to make him look bad and sadly Mihawk is the Nr1 target for it.
remember when People said Zoro cant be stronger than Kid, Law, Xdrake because he is not a captain? well that aged badly, now they do the same with Shanks, "he will never be at that lvl so Mihawk is not on that lvl"
well we see I guess
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