Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

[Dragon777]

Oda could change that, he literally changed teen Kaido's design before

Maybe, but he had a badge on after Roger, so.

 

[gz89]

Shiki and Silver Axe are trash.

We know that Sanjibros are desperate it's nothing new, but i hope swordbros don't fall so low and start sucking up Shiki's swords.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

I hope Oda is telling the basics of what happened at God Valley, then have the new movie covered it. Because there's no fucking way we get any meaningful fights at GV during the flashbacks outside of a few COC clashes panels

Never, he would never want to show Roger/Xebec full arsenal. He would only show it, if we would finish the journey with One piece(pre final war).

 

[Roo]

Already made a post about it. Imo that alliance doesn't mean they fought together against Wang Zhi. This is what he said:

- Teach, Law and Coby ended up there together from coincidence since they had their own motives

The words use was "alliance" meaning they did literally team up on the island lol

 

[Dragon777]

Whitebeard has a scar on his left pec. That area is covered up by his shirt in the flashback so he may have got that scar

Maybe, but he had a badage on the chest after Roger, so I would be inclied to think it's that.

 

[HA001]

And then Prime Garp AND Prime Sengoku went 2v1 with Shiki with half of MF destroyed. If Rayleigh hypetools Shiki, Garp is finished @HA001 @mly90

Ray is himothy

 

[park_min young]

I’ve had Whitebeard vs Garling since Oda confirmed Garling is shanks’ dad. The question was always Gaban and Ray. It was clear BM didn’t fight since she was busy with Saturn Iva and Kuma. Kaido got negged and needed saving so he’s not an option so that just left Shiki. But since silver axe is known as a powerhouse too it kinda just confirmed the matchups. Only question now is 1v1s or 2v1s with the HKs

Dude, it’s all 1v1s, stop putting the Rocks on a pedestal when compared to Roger pirates. They’re literally rival crews, the top officers are comparable to each other. Well, Rocks still has more firepower with guys like Whitebeard. Shiki is fair game for Ray, Ray has equal or more hype and is a good guy. He would beat him 10/10 times.

 

[Superior to you]

No wonder Rayleigh felt so familiar with Shiki

He was thinking of the good old days (GV battle)

This ver. Of Rayleigh 20 yrs ago would stomp Current Yonko.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Dude, it’s all 1v1s, stop putting the Rocks on a pedestal when compared to Roger pirates. They’re literally rival crews, the top officers are comparable to each other. Well, Rocks still has more firepower with guys like Whitebeard. Shiki is fair game for Ray, Ray has equal or more hype and is a good guy. He would beat him 10/10 times.

Ray does not have more hype than Shiki lmao and you’re the one putting Roger pirates on a pedestal. The Rox pirates were stronger

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Already made a post about it. Imo that alliance doesn't mean they fought together against Wang Zhi. This is what he said:

- Teach, Law and Coby ended up there together from coincidence since they had their own motives

- Law heard there was a poneglyph on Hachinosu and was looking for a ship to infiltrate the territory and get more knowledge on it. In the end, he ended in the wrong ship(Rocky port), where the King of an island was and once that ship arrived in Hachinosu, he was forced to confront the pirates which led to his reputation of having stolen 100 pirates hearts, which he used to get the Shichibukai title

- Coby arrived for an unknown motive, but ended up saving the Civilians there, most likely in the chaos of the battle, and as end result ended up known as Marine Hero

- Blackbeard's motive of being there was most likely to topple Wang Zhi and become King of Pirate Island, so when he came, the trouble Law caused in his battle against the pirates, as well as Coby's actions in handling the Civilians protection is probably what helped Blackbeard in a sense since it allowed him to have his way with Wang Zhi, topple him and taking over Hachinosu in his place

you a law hater

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Maybe, but he had a badage on the chest after Roger, so I would be inclied to think it's that.

Not in the spot of any scar. The scar at the center of his chest he seemingly got after Roger’s death

 

[thisnewtechnique]

"Silver Axe is a yakuza who wears a kimono similar to Shiki's, he is Shiki's rival and feared in the new world."
Yah, i think we got one Sanji bros

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Dude, it’s all 1v1s, stop putting the Rocks on a pedestal when compared to Roger pirates. They’re literally rival crews, the top officers are comparable to each other. Well, Rocks still has more firepower with guys like Whitebeard. Shiki is fair game for Ray, Ray has equal or more hype and is a good guy. He would beat him 10/10 times.

Pretty sure Rocks Pirates were actually called the strongest crew in the manga, unlike Roger Pirates.

 

[Roo]

Maybe, but he had a badge on after Roger, so.

it's a lost cause to argue against it. Oda has admitted he retcons stuff all the time and it would be a cool re read moment to realize he was talking about Garling.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Shiki and Silver Axe are trash.

We know that Sanjibros are desperate it's nothing new, but i hope swordbros don't fall so low and start sucking up Shiki's swords.

Doubting the previous WSS?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Ch 957

 

[Dragon777]

Not in the spot of any scar. The scar at the center of his chest he seemingly got after Roger’s death

It's not like Oda have to geolocalize the scar.

WB had scars on his cheat --> after Roger has had a band aid on his chest.

Not to mention It has far more narrative sense that Roger, his lifelong rival, gave him a scar.

 

[Guymieux]

BTW I used to tell people that John and silver Axe were put on the same pedastal of shiki by sengoku, sengoku talks about them.
I used to say this already in 2023, people sleep on power cliff.
Rocks were ABSOLUTE MONSTERS.

Average one piece fan has to get that there isn't yc1-2-3 etc level and that titles aren't everything, yes THE NUMBER 4 OF ROCKS SILVER AXE CAN BE YONKO LEVEL and ON PAR WITH SENGOKU

YES GABAN THE LEFT HAND NUMBER 3 CAN BE ABOVE THE FUCKING FLEET ADMIRAL.

YES GARP HAS FOUGHT ROGER MORE SERIOUSLY THAN WHITEBEARD AND IS CLEARLY STRONGER THAN HIM EVEN THOUGH HE GOT NO SHITTY TITLE.

STOP TITLE AND RANKING THINKING, LOOK AT FEATS, PORTRAY AND STATEMENTS.

SENGOKU GOT WORSE FEATS THAN GABAN, SO HE IS WEAKER ITS EASY.

Gaban had shit feats and so does Sanji . This goes against your agenda

 

[gz89]

Doubting the previous WSS?

This would be the final nail in the coffin.

Oda hates Mihawk because he made the mistake of making him Shanks' rival but I doubt he would do such a thing.

 

[Dragon777]

it's a lost cause to argue against it. Oda has admitted he retcons stuff all the time and it would be a cool re read moment to realize he was talking about Garling.

Maybe, but Roger giving a Scar to his lifelong rival would also have much more sense than a "random" scar by Garling.