Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1156 Spoilers Discussion

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Rivaille said:
People should let go of the idea that Roger was the strongest of his era. Oda had made it clear that he was not.
Rocks, Imu and WB were stronger (maybe even Harald). Garp was his equal.

Furthermore Roger became the PK when he was heavily weakened by his sickness and after begging WB for Oden proving that the PK title is not a strength title.

Since the Oden’s flashback Oda has gone at great length to deconstruct the idea that Roger was “Top 1 ever”.
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Pirate king is a collective title
Its a group achievement
 
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Ven437 said:
Now we know why Sengoku had this specific image in mind when he talked about God Valley

Ray vs Shiki swordsmen battle and Gaban vs Silver Axe axemen battle

Meanwhile Xebec’s Top 2 fighters joined him to take on Dodger and Garp. Kaido prob got one-shot or low diffed and that’s when Linlin went to save him. WB prob got interrupted by Garling then Dodger and Garp 2v1d Xebec and that‘s how the battle was won

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Linlin is not Top 2 tho
And neither is Kaido
 
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ZenZu said:
Honestly, WB took more attacks to take down but in a lot of ways Garp was more impressive than WB in combat.

WB couldn't get an upper hand on any Admiral even once. Garp was ragdolling Kuzan, now granted Kuzan was mentally compromised. But still, he's just a CQC beast compared to WB. WB was more grand of a character.
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It isn't just about the number of attacks he took to go down. He was in a 10X worse condition even before he got injured—can't use haki, started off with a stab through the chest, still held his own against all 3 admirals. Meanwhile, Garp is almost done for the moment a YC1+ guy stepped in while fighting Kuzan. Even after all those drawbacks, WB put Akainu in the same state that Kuzan was in after fighting Garp.

Garp was the most active old legend with probably the best health history. Still looped much less impressive overall. Tbh, if it weren't for Garp's supposed rivalry with Roger, peeps wouldn't think twice before putting WB two levels above Garp. As a matter of fact, a lot people started questioning Garp's hype after the beehive fight.
 
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Grotesque said:
It would have to be Marlon or Silver Axe or Barbel, as those are the only ones we don't know what happens with post GV.
Ochoku rules Hachinosu and eventually falls to BB, Kaido WB and BM (with Streusen) are yonko, Shiki as a Roger rival turned prisoner, Stussy to Mads, Gloriosa to Amazon Lily, Capt John, Bastar, and Ganzui end up in Thriller Bark as zeds.

Also this is all under the assumption scar man is an ex-Rocks, instead of say an ex-Roger or somebody unaffiliated.
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yeah i hope its Silver Axe, or else those cool design wont matter after the flashback ends lmao
 
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