Current Events Gold Roger Is Not Special And 1156 Was Horrible For Him

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#1
Alright I will not troll even slightly in this post.

When Roger learns that a Marine ship is coming, he is objectively terrified:


He doesn’t know that this is Garp yet, as we see here:


“Roger, isn’t that Garp’s ship?!”

Roger: “What did you just say?!!” <—Roger outright admitting that he didn’t know what Marine ship was approaching when his first instinct was to flee in terror

Roger: “Alright men! New plan!” <—Roger only decides not to flee in terror when he learns that his opponent is Garp

And then we witness one of the saddest top tier Haki exchanges in the manga:


But more importantly:


The fucking Haki beams are the exact. Same.

Is anyone still in denial that Kuzan possesses AdCoC at this point? Literally his Haki was already indistinguishable from Saint Shanks’s Haki:


And now his Haki is indistinguishable from Roger’s as well?

The only thing you can really say about Roger and Garp is that they used no touch Haki (which is not conqueror’s Haki but armament)


Other than this, they are literally exactly the same, except Garp and Kuzan’s Haki was so powerful that it ripped surrounding buildings from the ground and sent them flying, while Roger and Garp’s Haki did absolutely no environmental damage.

So anyway yeah. Roger is just a run of the mill top tier, he is rivals and/or equals with literally every top tier of his era and absolutely does not have standout strength portrayal in the slightest. Whitebeard, Shiki, Rayleigh, Gaban, Garp, Sengoku, and now Silver Axe were said to rival each other in power at numerous points through this manga’s history. Roger is absolutely not special at all.

And don’t even get me fucking started on this portrayal right here.



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#2
Imo current top tiers are more closer to PK tier after this chapter.

There doesn't seem to be any new level of haki. Only joyboy/imu will show higher levels of haki.

Kaido's haki won't be that far below Roger's plus he has DF boost.

WB had equal haki clash with roer and has DF

Shanks is Roger 2.0 and mihawk is bit stronger than shanks

Akainu may get adv coc plus awakening

PK tier is not that special anymore.
 
#9
I used to make fun of the fan community to call everyone a fraud and that ultimately Roger will get called one too one day.

But this chapter depicted a more stupid pirate than Goofy himself. I literally thought this was written by a 12year old under ecstasy. Why is he even after the Kuja pirates ? This isn’t even explained
I don't disagree with you, but it is stated they are after the Kuja because they want Shakky to join them.
 
#11
I used to make fun of the fan community to call everyone a fraud and that ultimately Roger will get called one too one day.

But this chapter depicted a more stupid pirate than Goofy himself. I literally thought this was written by a 12year old under ecstasy. Why is he even after the Kuja pirates ? This isn’t even explained
And you read like a 8 year old it was said in the chapter.
 
#12
Depends on what you mean by special, is he far above Rookie Xebec that no diffed an Admiral? Absolutely. Is he far above other legendary pirates like the Yonko? Not at all, Kaido is the most extreme diff of extreme diffs for him.
 

K!NG HARA$H!MA

Hustlerversity Graduate
#17
I used to make fun of the fan community to call everyone a fraud and that ultimately Roger will get called one too one day.

But this chapter depicted a more stupid pirate than Goofy himself. I literally thought this was written by a 12year old under ecstasy. Why is he even after the Kuja pirates ? This isn’t even explained
It looked like he wanted to enslave Shakky or some shit
 
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