Controversial Conclusive proof that the Bible is anti-slavery

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Hey, I saw and heard of some misconceptions that the Bible supports slavery, and I would like to show undeniable proof that the Bible is anti-slavery.



There are three main points I want to adress:

1. The law of the Old Testament regarding slavery

2. The views of abolitionists on the Bible's stance on slavery

3. The so-called Slave Bible








1. The law of the Old Testament regarding slavery


Slavery is forbid, and punishable by death, according to the law laid out in Leviticus:

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Exodus 21:16



“And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.”


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That's pretty much that, but there is something that I think is extremely important to mention, that is, God allowed the israelites some evil, out of the hardness of their heart, however slavery was not one of them, and that is extremely significant.

What am I talking about?

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Matthew 19:1-9

19 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan;


2 And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there.


3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?


4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,


5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?


6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?


8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.


9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.


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Look at Matthew 19:7-9 that I posted above

"They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?"

"He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."


God was willing to tolerate the law of the ancient israelite state not being perfectly moral, out of the hardness of the people's hearts, for the Messiah to be born later and save sinners who want to be saved.

One example of that is allowing people to divorce.

But slavery was not one of the things tolerated, and was said to be punished by death.

I think that's pretty important.







2. The views of abolitionists on the Bible's stance about slavery




The Bible was an inspiration in the fight against slavery of a well-known abolitionist hero, John Brown.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)


"John Brown (May 9, 1800 – December 2, 1859) was an American abolitionist in the decades preceding the Civil War. First reaching national prominence in the 1850s for his radical abolitionism and fighting in Bleeding Kansas, Brown was captured, tried, and executed by the Commonwealth of Virginia for a raid and incitement of a slave rebellion at Harpers Ferry, Virginia, in 1859.

An evangelical Christian of strong religious convictions, Brown was profoundly influenced by the Puritan faith of his upbringing.[1][2] He believed that he was "an instrument of God",[3] raised to strike the "death blow" to slavery in the United States, a "sacred obligation".[4] Brown was the leading exponent of violence in the American abolitionist movement,[5] believing it was necessary to end slavery after decades of peaceful efforts had failed.[6][7] Brown said that in working to free the enslaved, he was following Christian ethics, including the Golden Rule,[8] and the Declaration of Independence, which states that "all men are created equal".[9] He stated that in his view, these two principles "meant the same thing".[10]"



He has many quotes about God and christianity, including things like:


"Here, before God, in the presence of these witnesses, from this time, I consecrate my life to the destruction of slavery! "


"I am yet too young to understand that God is any respecter of persons. I believe that to have interfered as I have done...in behalf of His despised poor, was not wrong, but right. Now, if it is deemed necessary that I should forfeit my life for the furtherance of the ends of justice, and mingle my blood further with the blood of my children, and with the blood of millions in this slave country whose rights are disregarded by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments, I submit: so let it be done! "


"Holiness does not consist in mystic speculations, enthusiastic fervours, or uncommanded austerities; it consists in thinking as God thinks, and willing as God wills. "


"I have been whipped, as the saying is, but I am sure I can recover all the lost capital occasioned by that disaster; by only hanging a few moments by the neck; and I feel quite determined to make the utmost possible out of a defeat. "





Here is a full quote of John Brown's speech at his trial, after which he was executed, in which he also talks about the christianity motivated roots of his anti-slavery fight:


"I have, may it please the court, a few words to say. In the first place, I deny everything but what I have all along admitted — the design on my part to free the slaves. I intended certainly to have made a clean thing of that matter, as I did last winter when I went into Missouri and there took slaves without the snapping of a gun on either side, moved them through the country, and finally left them in Canada. I designed to have done the same thing again on a larger scale. That was all I intended. I never did intend murder, or treason, or the destruction of property, or to excite or incite slaves to rebellion, or to make insurrection.


I have another objection; and that is, it is unjust that I should suffer such a penalty. Had I interfered in the manner which I admit, and which I admit has been fairly proved (for I admire the truthfulness and candor of the greater portion of the witnesses who have testified in this case)–had I so interfered in behalf of the rich, the powerful, the intelligent, the so-called great, or in behalf of any of their friends–either father, mother, brother, sister, wife, or children, or any of that class–and suffered and sacrificed what I have in this interference, it would have been all right; and every man in this court would have deemed it an act worthy of reward rather than punishment.


This court acknowledges, as I suppose, the validity of the law of God. I see a book kissed here which I suppose to be the Bible, or at least the New Testament. That teaches me that all things whatsoever I would that men should do to me, I should do even so to them. It teaches me, further, to “remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them.” I endeavored to act up to that instruction. I say I am yet too young to understand that God is any respecter of persons. I believe that to have interfered as I have done–as I have always freely admitted I have done–in behalf of His despised poor was not wrong, but right. Now, if it is deemed necessary that I should forfeit my life for the furtherance of the ends of justice, and mingle my blood further with the blood of my children and with the blood of millions in this slave country whose rights are disregarded by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments–I submit; so let it be done!


Let me say one word further.


I feel entirely satisfied with the treatment I have received on my trial. Considering all the circumstances it has been more generous than I expected. But I feel no consciousness of guilt. I have stated that from the first what was my intention and what was not. I never had any design against the life of any person, nor any disposition to commit treason, or excite slaves to rebel, or make any general insurrection. I never encouraged any man to do so, but always discouraged any idea of that kind.


Let me say also a word in regard to the statements made by some of those connected with me. I her it has been stated by some of them that I have induced them to join me. But the contrary is true. I do not say this to injure them, but as regretting their weakness. There is not one of them but joined me of his own accord, and the greater part of them at their own expense. A number of them I never saw, and never had a word of conversation with till the day they came to me; and that was for the purpose I have stated.


Now I have done."



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Hebrews 13:3
3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.


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The verse he mentions, Hebrews 13:3, is also in my opinion a great example of an anti-slavery verse.







3. The Slave Bible


There exists a version of the Bible, created by pro-slavery advocates, named the Slave Bible, that was read out to slaves to try to brainwash them into thinking that God supported slavery.




https://www.christianity.com/wiki/bible/what-is-the-slave-bible-who-made-it-and-why.html

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/09/6749...tted-key-passages-that-could-incite-rebellion




"About 90 percent of the Old Testament is missing [and] 50 percent of the New Testament is missing," Schmidt says. "Put in another way, there are 1,189 chapters in a standard protestant Bible. This Bible contains only 232."



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“For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.” (Galatians 5:1)


Plantation owners in the West Indies worried Bible verses such as the one above would incite their African slaves to rebel against bondage. On the other hand, certain passages of Scripture encouraged submission to authority. Rather than withholding the entire Bible, some masters allowed their slaves to have the Slave Bible, which was compiled from selected parts of God’s word to inspire submission.






What is the Slave Bible?
The earliest copy of the Slave Bible was published in 1807, an “astoundingly reduced” Bible which “contains only parts of 14 books,” Brigit Katz reported for SmithsonianMag.com. Sections that were removed included the Exodus story, which showed God instructing Moses to lead the Israelites out of slavery in Egypt.
The account of Joseph’s enslavement, however, remains because his story exemplifies how well-behaved submission is rewarded by God. “The Lord was with Joseph, and he was a successful man; and he was in the house of his master the Egyptian” (Genesis 39:2).

Editors of the Slave Bible were “highlighting themes of being submissive; the same thing goes on with the New Testament as well,” Anthony Schmidt, PhD, Associate Curator of Bible and Religion in America, told CBN News.
Sources do not offer a table of contents for the Slave Bible, but a copy is available for public viewing at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C., which is on loan from Fisk University until September 2019. Two other copies are known to exist in the United Kingdom."




The existence of the Slave Bible, needing to omit 90% of the Old Testament, and 50% of the New Testament, in order to twist the Bible's messaging into one that would be in support of slavery, is evidence enough that the actual Bible is anti-slavery, as it was considered dangerous by the slavers, and that it could incite rebellions.



I hope this has been useful and has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Bible is completely anti-slavery.
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Should have kept reading that exodus chapter a couple lines further
I don't know what to respond to that and I will look into it, thanks for bringing it up, but I think you should take it all into consideration, not dismiss everything based on two verses that you can probably find the answer to


Especially because, if those verses meant what you think they do, there would be no point number 3 on my post, no Slave Bible
 
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I don't know what to respond to that and I will look into it, thanks for bringing it up, but I think you should take it all into consideration, not dismiss everything based on two verses that you can probably find the answer to


Especially because, if those verses meant what you think they do, there would be no point number 3 on my post, no Slave Bible
Yes, i also like this part of the chapter:

28 “If a bull gores a man or woman to death, the bull is to be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten. But the owner of the bull will not be held responsible. 29 If, however, the bull has had the habit of goring and the owner has been warned but has not kept it penned up and it kills a man or woman, the bull is to be stoned and its owner also is to be put to death. 30 However, if payment is demanded, the owner may redeem his life by the payment of whatever is demanded. 31 This law also applies if the bull gores a son or daughter. 32 If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull is to be stoned to death.
 
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I would never say that all Christians are pro slavery or anything. However; I think it’s important to note that Christianity has changed with the times, as every religion does. I don’t think it has to mean renouncing Christianity or you should become pro slavery if the Bible doesn’t denounce it harshly.

you can decide for yourself if certain things in the Bible were written, perhaps, by people in an ancient time where we did not value our fellow man much. It’s important in my view to recognize that even the things for which we hold faith are almost never perfect; most Christian sects pick and choose. Some would say that’s hypocritical, but not necessarily. I think it shows more integrity than the alternative if you can recognize that the Bible holds some very antiquated ideas alongside the conventions of morality we hold dear today.

Basically regardless of what the Bible says if your faith says the Jesus you choose to follow obviously would not condone that, you can use your judgement to decide that even the things in the Bible may contradict the message of compassion you know must be followed in your heart
 
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Jewish perspective.

there’s this Talmudic principle that you should “build a fence around the Torah”. It’s this idea that you should act in a way that ensures that you don’t even come close to violating a mitzvah.

It is the reason why the laws of kashrut are actually more extensive than what the Torah literally states.

Applying that same principle to slavery, one can only come to the conclusion that slavery ought to be illegal. Because while the Torah literally has prohibitions governing slavery, in practice the power dynamic of slavery is so great that one would inherently violate other mitzvah in the process of owning slaves.

For example with the passage quoted here
Should have kept reading that exodus chapter a couple lines further
Even if these laws were implemented exactly, slaves would still be murdered by their owners because an owner can easily overdo their beatings and neglect their slave due to the nature of slavery.

Hence the only way to ensure slavery is practiced morally is to outlaw it altogether
 
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Jewish perspective.

there’s this Talmudic principle that you should “build a fence around the Torah”. It’s this idea that you should act in a way that ensures that you don’t even come close to violating a mitzvah.

It is the reason why the laws of kashrut are actually more extensive than what the Torah literally states.

Applying that same principle to slavery, one can only come to the conclusion that slavery ought to be illegal. Because while the Torah literally has prohibitions governing slavery, in practice the power dynamic of slavery is so great that one would inherently violate other mitzvah in the process of owning slaves.

For example with the passage quoted here

Even if these laws were implemented exactly, slaves would still be murdered by their owners because an owner can easily overdo their beatings and neglect their slave due to the nature of slavery.

Hence the only way to ensure slavery is practiced morally is to outlaw it altogether
yeah totally, reading "they can beat their slaves if they dont die but recover in a couple days" leaves "slavery should be outlawed" as the only working interpretation. thank you.
 
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yeah totally, reading "they can beat their slaves if they dont die but recover in a couple days" leaves "slavery should be outlawed" as the only working interpretation. thank you.
I feel like it’s kinda pointless to argue about the meaning of Bible verses outside of the framework of Judaism or Christianity.

Because the Bible is really only relevant because of the aforementioned religions.
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Sure an atheist can point to some verses and say the Bible supports slavery as a low hanging fruit to dunk on those religions.

But what are you really saying when most people in those aforementioned religions don’t believe in slavery?
 
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Great post, especially about the slave bible which is totally accurate. I would like to point out that God rewards evil people with evil. God calls death the enemy but guess what? We are all dying because we sinned against God. Does that means God supports death? No, he doesn't we bring evil things upon ourselves. God sent the children of Israel into slavery multiple times because they worshipped idols and he warned Israel that he is a jealous God. Honestly slavery was mercy because God wanted to kill the children of Israel but Moses talked him out of it, they were constantly rebelling against God.

This is why the bible tells us that God rewards us according to our ways. If we are evil then something evil will happened to us such as slavery and if we are righteous we will be spared. Let me show you an example of what I'm talking about.

Jeremiah 15: 1 - 6, 11
15 Then said the Lord unto me, Though Moses and Samuel stood before me, yet my mind could not be toward this people: cast them out of my sight, and let them go forth.

2 And it shall come to pass, if they say unto thee, Whither shall we go forth? then thou shalt tell them, Thus saith the Lord; Such as are for death, to death; and such as are for the sword, to the sword; and such as are for the famine, to the famine; and such as are for the captivity, to the captivity.

3 And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the Lord: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy.

4 And I will cause them to be removed into all kingdoms of the earth, because of Manasseh the son of Hezekiah king of Judah, for that which he did in Jerusalem.

5 For who shall have pity upon thee, O Jerusalem? or who shall bemoan thee? or who shall go aside to ask how thou doest?

6 Thou hast forsaken me, saith the Lord, thou art gone backward: therefore will I stretch out my hand against thee, and destroy thee; I am weary with repenting.

11 The Lord said, Verily it shall be well with thy remnant; verily I will cause the enemy to entreat thee well in the time of evil and in the time of affliction.


The LORD is telling Jeremiah he will ensure he is treated well once Jerusalem is destroyed. Now let's see it get fulfilled.
Jeremiah 39: 1 - 2, 6 - 12

1 In the ninth year of Zedekiah king of Judah, in the tenth month, came Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon and all his army against Jerusalem, and they besieged it.

2 And in the eleventh year of Zedekiah, in the fourth month, the ninth day of the month, the city was broken up.

6 Then the king of Babylon slew the sons of Zedekiah in Riblah before his eyes: also the king of Babylon slew all the nobles of Judah.

7 Moreover he put out Zedekiah's eyes, and bound him with chains, to carry him to Babylon.

8 And the Chaldeans burned the king's house, and the houses of the people, with fire, and brake down the walls of Jerusalem.

9 Then Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard carried away captive into Babylon the remnant of the people that remained in the city, and those that fell away, that fell to him, with the rest of the people that remained.

10 But Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard left of the poor of the people, which had nothing, in the land of Judah, and gave them vineyards and fields at the same time.

11 Now Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon gave charge concerning Jeremiah to Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard, saying,

12 Take him, and look well to him, and do him no harm; but do unto him even as he shall say unto thee.


This is ABSOLUTELY beautiful. First of all notice that the poor got spared. Many of us treat the poor like the scum of the Earth today and we eat until we are full but don't give a damn about the poor but God cares about them. Second GOD kept his promise to Jeremiah because he was righteous. Dude basically had to do what Jeremiah said, which is crazy. the bible says God is righteous in all his ways not some.
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Should have kept reading that exodus chapter a couple lines further
20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.

According to the KJV it says servant not slave. Not sure which version you got this from but this scripture does not support slavery it's talking about people who serve others. For example Jacob had to serve Laban for 14 years to marry his daughters. Therefore Jacob was Laban's servant. Abraham also had servants in his house and he ruled over them, how do you think he got them to be circumcised? Abraham was a righteous man he was not a slave master. Joseph was also a servant in Potiphar's house. God is simply telling people how to treat others that serve them. That scripture has absolutely nothing to do with slavery, neither should it have been used to support slavery people just don't understand the context around it because we didn't live in that time. Being a servant did make you a slave, you could leave if you wanted to. Hagar attempted to leave and neither Abraham or Sarah chased after her, God is the one who told her to go back and Jacob could have left Laban.
 
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