Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1161 Spoilers discussion thread

yep they should never been above admrial there were to much of them.
Some will be below , 1 or 2 with be equal a admrial and at most 1 or 2 will be above the admirals.
Most likley Shamrock and Gunko and 1 other person and garling but he now elder .
The big issues with the HK is there gimmick of regen and needing ACoC to beat them.
Still by the time we get to the final war i sure a whole bunch of luffy allies will have ACOC lol .
Imho, the only one who legit Is a top tier is Shamrock (who Is also Sabo's EoS fight, I think). Shanks' twin, not much to say on this: he's clearly a top tier.

Gunko Is only of we take Imu into account. If not, the reaction to (old) Gaban showed she wasn't even close.

The rest are all vastly inferior since, as said, at best their strongest memeber Is going to fight EoS Jinbe.

Garling and Shamrock are that strong becuase they are related to Shanks. The are the HK equivalente of Garp among VAs.

To have top tiers/near top tiers, one have to look at the Gorosei.
 

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Sulong Bepo was far too peak.
Zunesha banged all of the Gorosei's wives, and Joy Boy's wife, during the Void Century.

That Kuma theory is very interesting. Luffy's "I have a dad?" line would then be amnesia
LMFAO, I SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED YOU WOULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING WORSE/EQUALLY AS DEGENERATE HAHAHA! I SET MYSELF UP RIGHT THERE! I'm dying of laughter man, that's so fucking cursed and hilarious, just like the scripts I come up with. Oh man, if OP was an older audience series, we could see jokes more about this potentially lol, especially with Oda's twisted, perverted sense of humour ofc! It would be like Family Guy as a manga, as CURSED as that sounds lmao.

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Right?! It always bothered me how much Luffy cares so little for not having parents present in his life and never talks about them, but I guess most characters do the same tbf? But it's weird to be nearly 30 years into a series and still not know who his mother is and why him, Dragon and Garp have such an extremely strained relationship, almost non existent to one another. Well we know more why now especially ofc but still.

I really suspect a typical sad backstory for Luffy's mother when the time comes, we know Oda CAN'T resist killing off another mother tragically for his blatant mommy issues!

I love how we have the ultimate schrodinger situation too with his mother, where almost everybody is luffy's mother according to us in the fandom but yet nobody is either ofc!

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