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That's the thing he was disappointing in Hachinosu, we expect a lot more from Admirals. For example to an Admiral, commander fodder are not a factor at all. Kuzan neg diffs them in the blink of an eye and has Teach shitting his pants.

For Garp to let these commander fodders gimp him is a bad look for Admiral standards. But it's somewhat understandable there was a literal ex Admiral there, was barely trying but still.

Anyhow this is the first time Admiral fans actually get a true gigachad Admiral worthy scene from him. 😤
Yeah you're correct, I apologize. I was just being ignorant there.
If only Oda made it so he, I don't know, was nerfed by being older and rustier in combat as well as having to protect Koby (which could be the reason he got stabbed in the first place) while juggling between a top tier who should have better striking strength than him (Kuzan's striking strength with no Haki = or ~ Prime Garp's striking strength with no Haki > Old Garp's striking strength with no Haki), a busted Devil Fruit, and a bunch of High Tiers all trying to take his head off.
But sadly he would never do such a thing. Because he doesn't respect Garp. Oh well.
At least we have Issho.
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Oda specifically portrayed Blackbeard vs Kuzan as a losing battle for Blackbeard solely due to Kuzan using his crew as hostages twice so he couldn't go all out with either of his fruits, if there were no hostages he'd have folded Kuzan like a paper airplane.
And Blackbeard likely won't surpass Rocks until he either gets his third fruit or awakens the two fruits he already has.
Why do you think Current Blackbeard>Kuzan?:Kaku_Smirk:
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Yeah you're correct, I apologize. I was just being ignorant there.
If only Oda made it so he, I don't know, was nerfed by being older and rustier in combat as well as having to protect Koby (which could be the reason he got stabbed in the first place) while juggling between a top tier who should have better striking strength than him (Kuzan's striking strength with no Haki = or ~ Prime Garp's striking strength with no Haki > Old Garp's striking strength with no Haki), a busted Devil Fruit, and a bunch of High Tiers all trying to take his head off.
But sadly he would never do such a thing. Because he doesn't respect Garp. Oh well.
At least we have Issho.
So there you have it then, this is the first time we see him in his true Admiral form. Hachinosu wasn't it.
 
Nobody cares about your Koby hate boner when Oda specifically put him in the contender spread, had him say he'd try and stop Luffy from achieving his dream, had us be told he's the future of the Marines twice, and had him specifically be Garp's beloved protege that's following in his footsteps in every way (i.e doing Battleship Bags, busting mountains, working according to his own beliefs instead of simply being a puppet to the World Government, etc.).
How is it a hate boner to say his Haki is still pretty mediocre all things considered? He showed Dressrosa level feats, which is fine, but we still can´t be sure he even beats Cracker. Koby gets folded by like 10 characters in the current flashback, like it or not
 
How is it a hate boner to say his Haki is still pretty mediocre all things considered? He showed Dressrosa level feats, which is fine, but we still can´t be sure he even beats Cracker. Koby gets folded by like 10 characters in the current flashback, like it or not
Cracker can't even do battleship bags, that pussy has to hide behind his soldiers which would all get wiped out, him included, by one Honesty Impact.
Calm down, take deep breaths, drink some herbal tea. Koby's making you seethe too much.
 
Cracker can't even do battleship bags, that pussy has to hide behind his soldiers which would all get wiped out, him included, by one Honesty Impact.
Calm down, take deep breaths, drink some herbal tea. Koby's making you seethe too much.
Weren´t you crying literally yesterday that Vergo fans were downplaying Kata and cracker?

Sorry, Koby hasn´t established that he can beat Doflamingo, Cracker and Katakuri. Double spreads will not change that.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
How is it a hate boner to say his Haki is still pretty mediocre all things considered? He showed Dressrosa level feats, which is fine, but we still can´t be sure he even beats Cracker. Koby gets folded by like 10 characters in the current flashback, like it or not
There are people out there who are allowed to vote, drive etc. who genuinely believe Coby > Vergo.
 
There are people out there who are allowed to vote, drive etc. who genuinely believe Coby > Vergo.
Bro he was personally trained by Garp the Fist himself. He's at least YC3 level now. But even if he's not on that level, he definitely could kill Vergo.
Weren´t you crying literally yesterday that Vergo fans were downplaying Kata and cracker?

Sorry, Koby hasn´t established that he can beat Doflamingo, Cracker and Katakuri. Double spreads will not change that.
Like I said, he's not quite at the level of people like Doflamingo (though Doffy is only one tier up but he's still too tricky for Koby, too much endurance for him either, Koby can only one shot vets right now with Honesty Impact imo but he could definitely seriously injure characters a little stronger than them) but he'll get there very quickly. Garp tried to give his life for Koby for a reason.
 
Bro he was personally trained by Garp the Fist himself. He's at least YC3 level now. But even if he's not on that level, he definitely could kill Vergo.

Like I said, he's not quite at the level of people like Doflamingo (though Doffy is only one tier up but he's still too tricky for Koby, too much endurance for him either, Koby can only one shot vets right now with Honesty Impact imo but he could definitely seriously injure characters a little stronger than them) but he'll get there very quickly. Garp tried to give his life for Koby for a reason.
We genuinely can´t be sure that he beats Vergo is the thing, If Vergo can dodge Honesty impact(and he isn´t a big dumb giant jobber, so he easily could) Vergo can easily give Koby the beating of his life(based on the fact that random Kuja pirates were able to injure him, same was true on pirate island). YC whatever isn´t a thing, so drop it. But I doubt he stands any chance against Cracker.
 
We genuinely can´t be sure that he beats Vergo is the thing, If Vergo can dodge Honesty impact(and he isn´t a big dumb giant jobber, so he easily could) Vergo can easily give Koby the beating of his life(based on the fact that random Kuja pirates were able to injure, same was true on pirate island). YC whatever isn´t a thing, so drop it. But I doubt he stands any chance against Cracker.
When he couldn't even dodge this:

Which is an attack with no AoE, there's no reason to assume he could suddenly dodge an attack as huge and instantaneous as Honesty Impact.
That hits him in the head like Smoker's punch, especially if he can't even use Haki or Tekkai on time, he's just dead.
 
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