Role Madness One Piece Mash 2.0

[Frinckles]

The fun part is the cult leader flipped with 2 shots cult non refillable, which idk why it made yall think with the cult leader and that meant there was a 5 man strong cult running around and not just a mafia lol.

I had no idea what to expect mechanically. Even with your bastard element disclaimer on the main post, my imagination went wild. Yoho, for example could have literally been a lazy executioner and why am I supposed to lynch that over cult or mafia?
Which made narrowing down significantly harder for my slot.

I'm actually not complaining, just telling you what was going through my brain. Tricky game! And a fun one.

 

[Pot Goblin]

I had the trigger to your neck in case your shop turned out to be a sham

Wouldn't be the first time
Wouldn't be a proper shop without the occasional flirting with danger after all

 

[Bakura]

I had no idea what to expect mechanically. Even with your bastard element disclaimer on the main post, my imagination went wild. Yoho, for example could have literally been a lazy executioner and why am I supposed to lynch that over cult or mafia?
Which made narrowing down significantly harder for my slot.

I'm actually not complaining, just telling you what was going through my brain. Tricky game! And a fun one.

I know youre not complaining lol, and the Yoho one was tricky as he quite literally could back his weird claim by not even voting once lol.

 

[Yoho]

I know youre not complaining lol, and the Yoho one was tricky as he quite literally could back his weird claim by not even voting once lol.

Tehehe

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

1 - If you recognise that you shouldn't be doing it, then why are you defending doing it? It's not acceptable Ekko, and I'm tired of you thinking you have license to do this to hosts every game the moment something doesn't go well. You've had strikes for similar behaviour in the past, what's the next step? Because clearly you're not working through it yourself. If even this game gets that stuff out of you, then I think we're way past the point of needing something to intervene on it.

2 - I'm not answering your question because it isn't relevant and I don't care. You're moving the discussion point away from what mine is, at which point I have nothing further to say on it.

3 - I am not sure where you are seeing "coping" or "ego". I am frustrated. Pissed off even. Because I know Fuji is a host that let's these sorts of things get to him and I thought for once we could get through a game which wasn't full of it. And then I see you apologise for it and I think that it's absolutely ridiculous. Also, it doesn't matter what you care for. You can't use words like that here, that's not the community I want and people who use that sort of word aren't going to be a part of said community for very long. End of story. I'd expect an apology but I know you better - you will never admit fault, so I will leave it at simply telling you that I won't be warning you about it again.

I am reading the chat now and I hope to God it's tame.

1. uh no im not defending doing it, hence why the apology. im questioning your r-word take in that scum shudnt be the ones to complain here cuz they r winning. u wanna take that back? it implies that town have more reasons to complain than mafia do in this game and i only have bad things to say about that take.

2. the answer to that question is the entire reason for the discussion and obviously you're aware of that. you know the town roles are egregiously terribly designed so u cant defend them. yet you said mafia shouldnt complain here cuz they r winning. see the issue?

3. fuji has been making pretty solid games this year, then he suddenly decided to drop this abomination. in all honestly im all cool for it, just wished it was advertised better, and probably labeled as super rolemadness to start with. no one is talking about the community and all that, nobody is arguing that i shudnt complain. you're changing goal posts to some random shit. i apologized in my first post cuz i know i shudnt be complaining regardless. i only have an issue with you clearly, either via coping and/or your ego, stating that mafia shud be the less likely ones to complain here, when clearly that shud be town given how stacked their roles are, and you don't disagree with me that the roles were indeed stacked in town's favor. thats the part i have issue with and ive bolded it so u dont miss it.

have fun reading the chat, cheers!

 

[Frinckles]

I know youre not complaining lol, and the Yoho one was tricky as he quite literally could back his weird claim by not even voting once lol.

There's an older (irl) player on sc2mafia and he claimed to not know what discord was, which I assumed meant he could not be mafia. He was mafia lying to me lmfao. Didn't help that his pfp was some podcaster in his 80s.

Not saying this is the same but it reminds me of that. And I will never be fooled by such tricks again @Yoho you sneaker you. I should have questioned the legitimacy of basically not allowing a player to vote. I feel silly.

 

[Frinckles]

Alright Fuji. Here's my only complaint. You ready?

 

[Yoho]

There's an older (irl) player on sc2mafia and he claimed to not know what discord was, which I assumed meant he could not be mafia. He was mafia lying to me lmfao. Didn't help that his pfp was some podcaster in his 80s.

Not saying this is the same but it reminds me of that. And I will never be fooled by such tricks again @Yoho you sneaker you. I should have questioned the legitimacy of basically not allowing a player to vote. I feel silly.

I made sure to add a bit more validation to my claim by saying my vote doesn't count unless ??? Is lynched or killed and the fact I decided not to vote long before I thought of this scheme also helped collaborate the lie

🤧 I don't rhink i can play this card again tho

 

[York]

im questioning your r-word take

Saying "r-word" instead of actually saying the word isn't really better

 

[Bakura]

Alright Fuji. Here's my only complaint. You ready?

 

[Charlie]

my role btw

Spoiler

Dr. Omegapunk

Civiilian Scientist: You are averse to violence, you cannot start wagons on your own.

Helper Bots: You have 4 Helper bots that help you with your day to day activities:

Billy: The bodyguard bot, you may activate this bot to safeguard a player and if that player is attacked the bot will glue himself to the attacker and delay their action for a cycle. If that happens however you will lose your VP the next day.[2-Shots]

Sammy: Target a player and give them a post restriction, if they break it they will become unable to target you the following night.

Jimmy: Jimmy performs an area scan around two players and prevents them from targetting each other.[2-Shots]

Bobby: Once during the game, Dr Omegapunk can transfer his consciousness into Bobby. He may speak through him ( through the host as messages) after death.

You may only choose one Robot to use per phase.

Inventor: You may create an ability under host supervision.

Generated:

Spoiler: Inventor

1. Randomator 2000 (passive): Invention that makes inventions for you! One freshly baked gadget every day! Beware, inventions generated this way are low quality and break after use.
At the start of each day phase gain one-shot of simple, basic ability. :

Spoiler: Randomator 2000

1. DenDenMusshi - send day pm (1-shot)
2. Target a player at night and give them double action for the night (1-shot)
3. Jaiya Pie: Target a player and give them this pie, increasing their VP by 1 for a phase. (1-shot)
4. +1vp: Gain +1vp for a phase (1-shot)

2. Motion detector: Target a player and learn if they used or were the target of an ability the previous night.
3. Clairvoyant: during DP gain information about setup

Spoiler: shop

Vision Dial - See the first player your target visits at night from shop (1-shot)

Wincon: Eliminate all threats to town.

Spoiler: actions

D1 - Sammy on flower (sweetheart)
N1 - Jimmy on flower and ra
inventor to make randomator 2000
got dendenmushi from randomator

D2 - Sammy on Orca (animals)
N2 - Billy on hayumi
inventor to make motion detector
got Vision Dial - See the first player your target visits at night from shop
got Target a player at night and give them double action for the night. from randomator

D3 - Sammy on Waluigi (cat lady)
N3 - got Jaiya Pie: Target a player and give them this pie, increasing their VP by 1 for a phase from randomator

D4 - Sammy on Ekko (cowboy)
N4 - Jimmy on Duckt and Michelle
motion detector on York (movement detected)
got self +1vp from randomator
Inventor to make duel if i'm able to (amped) and clairvoyant if i'm not able to make duel (not amped), got clairvoyant

D5 - clairvoyant - got current census 5-1-1-8
got +1 vp
Sammy on Bittersweat (brainrot)

can we get scum roles?

 

[Michelle]

Thank you for the game @Fujishiro
Thanks for playing everyone!
I was converted N1 and I couldn't help anymore town's wincon
Well played team, especially @Hayumi and @EkkoLoJinx who were the ones bringing the mafia win by their thread play and use of actions! @Dr_Professor83 was nice to have you in chat, probably the first time when we are scum together!!! The rest of the team

Town was close, every now and then our names came in solves only to be changed after our openwolfing posts.
I am sorry I wasn't really active but I had to be extra careful because my flip would prove Charles' census for example so closer to end I tried to pass unnoticed.

 

[Michelle]

Also @The Orca I am sorry for the tunnel, it wouldn't happen if I would remain town!

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Thank you for the game @Fujishiro
Thanks for playing everyone!
I was converted N1 and I couldn't help anymore town's wincon
Well played team, especially @Hayumi and @EkkoLoJinx who were the ones bringing the mafia win by their thread play and use of actions! @Dr_Professor83 was nice to have you in chat, probably the first time when we are scum together!!! The rest of the team

Town was close, every now and then our names came in solves only to be changed after our openwolfing posts.
I am sorry I wasn't really active but I had to be extra careful because my flip would prove Charles' census for example so closer to end I tried to pass unnoticed.

Wish I could have played a bit more but didn’t really free up until this last day.

Literally any member flipping would have outted some other member lol. It’s funny I mentioned early we may not need to tie ourselves so closely together yet then everyone just said “nah no casualties”

 

[Ratchet]

Let's try this one more time.

1. uh no im not defending doing it, hence why the apology. im questioning your r-word take in that scum shudnt be the ones to complain here cuz they r winning. u wanna take that back? it implies that town have more reasons to complain than mafia do in this game and i only have bad things to say about that take.

2. the answer to that question is the entire reason for the discussion and obviously you're aware of that. you know the town roles are egregiously terribly designed so u cant defend them. yet you said mafia shouldnt complain here cuz they r winning. see the issue?

3. fuji has been making pretty solid games this year, then he suddenly decided to drop this abomination. in all honestly im all cool for it, just wished it was advertised better, and probably labeled as super rolemadness to start with. no one is talking about the community and all that, nobody is arguing that i shudnt complain. you're changing goal posts to some random shit. i apologized in my first post cuz i know i shudnt be complaining regardless. i only have an issue with you clearly, either via coping and/or your ego, stating that mafia shud be the less likely ones to complain here, when clearly that shud be town given how stacked their roles are, and you don't disagree with me that the roles were indeed stacked in town's favor. thats the part i have issue with and ive bolded it so u dont miss it.

have fun reading the chat, cheers!

1 - I don't want to take anything back. Complaining in a fashion that you know isn't acceptable can only really be excused if the game warrants it. In this case, you had no stress, and I expect you to be able to keep calm as a result of that lack of stress. It does not imply that town have more reasons to complain, it implies that Mafia have had an easy enough ride that they should be expected to fully control their emotions throughout. And if you can't do that, that's a problem that you are going to have to correct - ASAP.

2 - You're assuming my position because of what I haven't said. Seems like a very silly way to work through this discussion. But if you want to imagine what my opinion is, when I haven't told you, then feel free. I don't have to engage with these imaginary takes that you're making though, and I won't. Because they don't have any relevance to what I do want to engage in. Also, to correct your manipulation of my position, my critique is that mafia were winning easily and still complained, enough to apologise afterwards. It goes beyond merely winning.

3 - I haven't moved the goalposts anywhere. You're the one who inserted yourself into a conversation between Fuji and I, and now you are trying to tell me what the original conversation was about. Hilarious. You can bold, red text, underline, or otherwise do whatever you like. I'm not sure what I'm apparently coping about or where my ego is supposed to be a factor here. You've lost me on that, maybe you're using words that you don't understand? I'm not sure and could only guess. I don't recall giving any take on the strength of the town roles so I couldn't tell you whether I agree or disagree as I haven't even looked at them all myself. When you have an easy win with little to no stress where the game was essentially over many cycles before it ended, then yes I expect you to be calm and reasonable and complaints to be fully constructive or left until after the game. I would expect that from any side, but I especially expect it from the side that has little stress. Because that that tells me is that if you can't manage it in this circumstance, then your issue is chronic and thus a bigger issue in general.

I think that about covers it? So far I've sent bits in the chat that I don't like but nothing too egregious.

 

[Ratchet]

Saying "r-word" instead of actually saying the word isn't really better

Also this, @EkkoLoJinx - self censoring isn't going to absolve you of consequence for using it. It's still there. Stop using it ENTIRELY or you won't be welcome here any longer.

 

[Bakura]

Also this, @EkkoLoJinx - self censoring isn't going to absolve you of consequence for using it. It's still there. Stop using it ENTIRELY or you won't be welcome here any longer.

I think he used it once or twice in the PM but it feels like when he was in his M-word (Muppets) phase lol. Like he just says it to say it but isnt meaning ill will with it. I do think @EkkoLoJinx that you shouldnt use it lol, stick to Muppets lol.

 

[The Orca]

shout outs to @The Orca for nearly catching the whole team at the end there

Thanks, I definitely tried lol

Mafias roles btw:

Michelle was town but they culted her @Rohan

Who were the culted players and which nights?

Can you add me to dead and scum chats

Also thanks for the game as usual, very fun despite me looking like this much of the game

 

[Ratchet]

I think he used it once or twice in the PM but it feels like when he was in his M-word (Muppets) phase lol. Like he just says it to say it but isnt meaning ill will with it. I do think @EkkoLoJinx that you shouldnt use it lol, stick to Muppets lol.

Yeah I'm fine with calling someone a muppet. To a point of course but it's pretty tame. The other word is not and hasn't been acceptable for a long time though. I'm also not a fan of the racial epithets or him using "gay" as an insult either so those need to stop as well.

@EkkoLoJinx for your reference.

 

[Bakura]

Thanks, I definitely tried lol


Who were the culted players and which nights?

Can you add me to dead and scum chats

Also thanks for the game as usual, very fun despite me looking like this much of the game

Literally only LM, Michelle Night 1 and then Polar Bear the night he died.