Character Discussion Who's more dumb - Harald v. Oden

Who's the most foolish lord


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#41
Oden is stupider than Harald but Harald is a worse character because he’s not stupid yet he does all these things while being intelligent enough to know he’s doing a bad thing
 
#43
It is easily Oden. Oden could have simply fixed all his problems by immediately mobilising his allies in Wano and killing the two obvious problems.

He almost succeeded in killing those two problems anyway despite suffering major disadvantages when he ended up forced to take the correct course of action anyway.

Harald at worst made an arguably bad decision. Oden made an objectively retarded one.
Oden could have taken out Kaido and Orochi early on by asking Hyogoro, the Scabbards, Ninja and other heavy hitters from Wano for help. Instead, he stalled long enough for Kaido to have enough strength to take him on. LOLDEN
This. Plus the fact he could have sent a scabbard to fetch Roger, Rayleigh, Gaban and WB... He could have played along twerking for 3 months until they arrive and then it's game over for Kaido.
 
#49
Oden and its not even close....

Imagine being part of Roger's crew, and then when you return home, you start twerking for someone like Kaido.

His plan was "maybe Kaido will leave" ?????

In all these years he wasnt even able to deal with Orochi.

And then he had probably the most fked up death in one piece.
 

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#50
This about sums it up. Harald was simply naive to the true nature of the Gorosei. Oden’s brain doesn’t work properly.

Being naive is not the same as being stupid. Being naive simply means you lack information. Being stupid means your brain has all the information it needs and you still make the wrong decisions anyway.

For example, being a Kaido fan prior to Wano is naïveté, we really didn’t have any way of knowing how disastrously bad Oda would fuck up that character.

Being a Kaido fan after Wano is pure retardation, because we now saw how utterly disastrous Oda’s handling of that character was and your defective brain still makes the wrong decision to stan the character anyway.

Know the difference.
 
#51
Lolden is the dumbest retard in mid piece by far

Harald is coming in hot for that throne tho. But harald's island not falling to the enemy and his people not becoming slaves gives him some points. He hasn't dance naked like a retard so far either. Maybe that changes and he twerks for imcel.
 
#54
This about sums it up. Harald was simply naive to the true nature of the Gorosei. Oden’s brain doesn’t work properly.

Being naive is not the same as being stupid. Being naive simply means you lack information. Being stupid means your brain has all the information it needs and you still make the wrong decisions anyway.

For example, being a Kaido fan prior to Wano is naïveté, we really didn’t have any way of knowing how disastrously bad Oda would fuck up that character.

Being a Kaido fan after Wano is pure retardation, because we now saw how utterly disastrous Oda’s handling of that character was and your defective brain still makes the wrong decision to stan the character anyway.

Know the difference.
Harald knew WG was evil and their forces attacking humans who harald owed.
 
#55
Harald knew WG was evil and their forces attacking humans who harald owed.
He saw an innocent women killed infront of him by a WG worker, he even snap at that time.
Knows WG do hunting competition that is total annihilation of a country that are innocent.

And he still obsessed with alliance with the WG.
Ida might have slapp him too hard that he lost most of his braincells, thinking alliance with WG means Elbaf will be better country and become a peace loving nation.
This guy is the dumbest foolish lord, Xebec calls him delusional too iirc.
If he's in Oden shoes, the guy won't move a muscle in the name of PEACE 🕊️

"Oden cause make his country suffer more"
The only reason Larald was lucky enough to not cause his country into total dire situation is because he got Loki at the right time to stopped his stupid ass
 
#59
No matter how trash Harald is for randomly plucking out his horns and begging to be a WG slave, nothing beats showing up every single day for 5 years twerking naked infront of the masses to the tune of a lowlife like Orochi😂
You know Oden is based on Hercules. Hercules became a slave for 1 year to a queen as penance for murder, where he was forced to do women's work dressed in women's clothing.

The dancing same as Hercules atonement is tempering of the spirit and of the character.
 
#60
Oden's stupidity is coupled by naivety ,but it is not taken into account ,however with Harald you take it into account . That's the problem in the deduction who made the worse décision...

Oden just travelled for 5 years of his time and was under Grand pirates with Honour like Roger and Whitebeard..He didn't realise how scum some pirates can be ..He shook hands with Kaidou to keep every single Wanonian alive for 5 years even if it meant they would struggle heavily in those years (slavery) and then they would be free forever. At least he thought this way none would die unlike with a full on head to head battle.

Harald saw the world ,His best friend warned him multiple times about what WG intends to do to his nation,he himself has seen the atrocities of the WG. He travelled the world and made connections for like a half century. In the end he completely changed the nature of his people and gave in to the WG ,all because of the IDA pussy and because he didn't have the balls to say no to some elders of his nation and despised them for it..

The current problems of Elbaf and the current isolation of his Son is all thanks to Harald and his blind love for Ida ..(He hit that estrid pussy though no question asked)
 
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