Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1167 Spoilers Discussion
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Yes,i think many people in the Roger pirates,and even Whitebeard,believed that Ace would be the new Joy Boy. But,both Shanks and later Whitebeard when they met Luffy realized he was the real deal Joy Boy-wise.
I also think maybe Roger believed that Shanks could have been Joy Boy,thats why he gave him the Strawhat,but after Laugh Tale he realized that Shanks could not be Joy Boy, because they were too early of around 20 years,and thats why Shanks was crying
I also think maybe Roger believed that Shanks could have been Joy Boy,thats why he gave him the Strawhat,but after Laugh Tale he realized that Shanks could not be Joy Boy, because they were too early of around 20 years,and thats why Shanks was crying
Chapter 0 isn’t canon to me because it came out before Marineford, and up until Marineford the concept of haki and power levels still wasn’t clearly defined.
Shiki was basically flattering Whitebeard and saying that it was his era, which obviously puts Whitebeard above him. And by that logic, it would mean that Whitebeard, being stronger than Shiki and portrayed that way by Oda, would push Garp and Sengoku into even greater difficulty.
He went from supposedly having a huge "high diff" over Garp and Sengoku to being defeated by pre–timeskip Luffy. Being that strong, it makes no sense. I don’t know how Oda would allow someone on Roger’s level to be defeated by pre–timeskip Luffy. It only shows how lost he was at the time.
Shiki was basically flattering Whitebeard and saying that it was his era, which obviously puts Whitebeard above him. And by that logic, it would mean that Whitebeard, being stronger than Shiki and portrayed that way by Oda, would push Garp and Sengoku into even greater difficulty.
He went from supposedly having a huge "high diff" over Garp and Sengoku to being defeated by pre–timeskip Luffy. Being that strong, it makes no sense. I don’t know how Oda would allow someone on Roger’s level to be defeated by pre–timeskip Luffy. It only shows how lost he was at the time.
Something funny
These two scenes are ONE page apart
Oda is fine drawing Shiki in some cool doublespread with the OG yonko next to WB but respect him too much to draw him as Garp's hype tool. Is this what they mean by relevance scaling?
@Sir Yasheen
These two scenes are ONE page apart
Oda is fine drawing Shiki in some cool doublespread with the OG yonko next to WB but respect him too much to draw him as Garp's hype tool. Is this what they mean by relevance scaling?
@Sir Yasheen
Something funny
These two scenes are ONE page apart
Oda is fine drawing Shiki in some cool doublespread with the OG yonko next to WB but respect him too much to draw him as Garp's hype tool. Is this what they mean by relevance scaling?
@Sir Yasheen
These two scenes are ONE page apart
Oda is fine drawing Shiki in some cool doublespread with the OG yonko next to WB but respect him too much to draw him as Garp's hype tool. Is this what they mean by relevance scaling?
@Sir Yasheen
Little did they know that when oda expanded the world they were struggling to even medal
Man movie shiki had age hit him like a truck, no, 100 BattleShip size trucks for him to be Peak Pretimeskip Luffy level.
Anyways, I honestly feel like calling shanks a "rar" or a "snitch" outside if agenda talking is kind of wrong? I mean in the literally sense he WOULD be a rat to the WG (A good thing might I add).
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Anyways, I honestly feel like calling shanks a "rar" or a "snitch" outside if agenda talking is kind of wrong? I mean in the literally sense he WOULD be a rat to the WG (A good thing might I add).
It's because he's hardly relevant to the story so people scale him based on this. Personally I don't think it has any bearing on his PL. People been coping over Shiki's PL for so long they were claiming Garp is a fraud for a long time, now that Garp is clearly mean to be ~ Roger they have to scale Whiki accordingly.
You realize you're dissing Kaido too, right?
And what we get from that instance is that Shiki couldn’t even draw his fight with Roger to be considered his equal — he ended up with a steering wheel stuck in his head.
Kaidou never fought Roger, so no, Kaidou is exempt. If he had confronted Roger, then you’d actually have an argument.
To make it clearer, any pirate who never fought Roger still has the chance to prove they can match him. Those who did fight him and didn’t receive that kind of portrayal have no one claiming that people simply failed to recognize them as his equals. They just didn’t reach that status.
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Yeah cause Buggy knew Roger had to get rescued from Shiki after Buggy begged Roger not to fight him
Oh yes, I almost forgot, he was also a sycophant of Whitebeard.
If there were at least one living soul saying that this guy could tie with Roger, that he was equal to Roger, even possessing at least one instance of him clashing with Roger, I would understand, but even with that instance, that portrayal doesn't exist.
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