Role Madness Elden Ring

Ratchet

Ratchet

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Also the idea that I "let scum claim my role" is just baffling to me - I claimed directly in response to his claim. You all as a collective were at that point working with the same information I had to work with. How am I "letting" them do anything? It would be one thing if I had saw him claim and didn't counter it... but I did.
 
Ratchet

Ratchet

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Flower said:
Also I didn’t make finding me difficult at all. I tried my best to solve this game and put everything I thought in this thread. What more should I even do lol.
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Well I had you as town more or less for most of the game so it's not really that. I explained what it was - you intentionally refuse to engage with basic points or consider basic parameters from my side, instead shutting down discussion entirely and then taking pot shots at me to suggest I'm doing it to personally hurt you or something. Like I said, I checked out, I'm tired of having what I think is a reasonable level of doubt and expressing that in a way that enables conversation, only to get that sort of response back. This time I just decided I'll let you guys sort it out instead.
 
Flower

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Ratchet said:
No I didn't Flower. I pushed Saber for a lynch before he claimed and after he claimed my response was "happy to lynch this". My actual error there was reading too much into his reaction afterwards and giving him some leeway, because I correctly pointed out that every other aspect of his game was like his scum play.

That said, I don't agree woth the idea that the two roles can't co-exist in a Fuji game. Fuji has done this sort of thing before, and I don't really agree with him on it because I think sometimes he goes too far to avoid setup spec to intentionally laying traps. Which works in terms of dissuading the spec.

All I was saying with you was I didn't like how you kept trying to push me for a lynch off the back of our roles not co-existing. If you had couched the read in a proper analysis of each of our behaviours and then used that as a point to justify why we should be lynching between us, it would be a different matter. But you didn't do that. Indeed, you couldn't really explain why anything I did was acrually scummy. You just leaned on the role spec. And I am going to have an issue with that, because it's shallow analysis that deserves to be prodded. And I know I'm town, so my fear is, if I get lynched today, you with your argument have made it so you don't need to answer for your suspicion on me being relatively unsupported by evidence, you can just point to Saber and say "well I was wrong between the two, oh well, lynch him instead".

That's what I mean by "force a dichtomy". You're acting like I was stopping you from suspecting Saber at all, and that's just not true. It's not even close to being true. I just didn't like how the argument for it only considered one aspect and not a holistic view of our slots.

I don't really think it's unfair of me to expect you to be able to engage with that. But you didn't ever engage with it, you just called me scum, or said you just don't want to play games I'm in because I always push you (not really true but whatever) and all other sorts of crap that I just didn't want to read. So I just gave up frankly, lost interest and coasted out the rest of the game until I died.
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There was a dichotomy. You could take roles away from each other. If you can’t see that now even after I was proven right that’s a you issue then. But it will happen again and I will be right again because it just doesn’t make sense on the same side. Not like I said Saber was scummy for his play around Yoho either or anything and that his Town read on him reeked. Not like I said we should look into him if Yoho flips Town EoD1 already. It wasn’t even just the role.

Anyway, pointless discussion. I will continue using this kind of logic and I will be correct again, if you’re wrong again next game skill issue.
 
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Fujishiro said:

@Red Night / Millicent has been killed
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@Peroroncino /Blaidd The Half Wolf has died
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With no more threats left to oppose them @Jan , @Worst , @Michelle , @Charlie and @Luka have won the game.

Thank you for playing.

1- @Yoho
2- @Peroroncino
3- @Polar Bear
4- @Ratchet
5- @Jaguark101
6- @bittersweet
7- @Indigo
8- @Flower
9- @RippedCal
10- @Naomi
11- @Random Asshole
12- @Charlie
13- @KWEH
14- @baudib1
15- @Yoshi
16- @The Orca
17- @Lord Melkor
18- @MonochromeYoru
19- @Alwaysmind
20- @Yo Tan Wa
21- @Worst
22- @Jan
23- @Hayumi
@Red Night

Subs:
1- @York
2- @Michelle
3- @Alexis2282AE
4- @Stargate18
@Saber
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Idk why but my immediate reaction is

AWOOOOOGA

so I’m following my heart and just letting it rip despite having no clue why this is my reaction
 
Ratchet

Ratchet

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Flower said:
There was a dichotomy. You could take roles away from each other. If you can’t see that now even after I was proven right that’s a you issue then. But it will happen again and I will be right again because it just doesn’t make sense on the same side. Not like I said Saber was scummy for his play around Yoho either or anything and that his Town read on him reeked. Not like I said we should look into him if Yoho flips Town EoD1 already. It wasn’t even just the role.

Anyway, pointless discussion. I will continue using this kind of logic and I will be correct again, if you’re wrong again next game skill issue.
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*sigh* I rest my case.
 
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