One Piece Episode 1153 - The Upheaval of an Era! The Color of the Supreme King That Leads Luffy

[Fujishiro]

Oh ye!! You started this argument after you feel like i might downplay Imu little too much after i given my views on how a much more beneficial Joyboy 2.0 with better allies, stronger foundation, plot and all advantages over the past Joyboy will fare against current Imu who twerk to a mere wifi haki of the past failed Joyboy.

The only thing I said was pertinent to your statement.

Agenda based on facts isnt headcanon but yknow keep on trucking mate. I wont stop you.

Prepare for worst if an even stronger EOS villain is on the making for a better matchup for EOS Luffy. They'll say i got butthurt and projected my headcanon again, when every agenda is headcanon ROFL

Oh gee, more headcanon from you :(.

 

[Blahmigooo]

The only thing I said was pertinent to your statement.

Agenda based on facts isnt headcanon but yknow keep on trucking mate. I wont stop you.


Oh gee, more headcanon from you :(.

Yep
We should ignore all signs, narratives and hints.
Afterall everything remains headcanon especially for that doesn't suits one's agenda :))

 

[Fujishiro]

Yep
We should ignore all signs, narratives and hints.
Afterall everything remains headcanon especially for that doesn't suits one's agenda.

What sign did we see? If you mean Imu being shaken by feeling a guys haki thats definitely a threat to him then Im back to asking you if you believe Oden>Kaido? If not then we have nothing, we just wait and see how things develop.

 

[Blahmigooo]

What sign did we see? If you mean Imu being shaken by feeling a guys haki thats definitely a threat to him then Im back to asking you if you believe Oden>Kaido? If not then we have nothing, we just wait and see how things develop.

Yes Oden > Kaido on that fight

And somebody who legit head n shoulder above prime Oden would beat Kaido in that flashback too...
Just like an even stronger version of Joyboy would wreck tf out of this Imu unless he update his game to have 50/50 fight.

 

[Fujishiro]

Yes Oden > Kaido on that fight

And somebody who legit head n shoulder above prime Oden would beat Kaido in that flashback too...
Just like an even stronger version of Joyboy would wreck tf out of this Imu unless he update his game to have 50/50 fight.

Kaido was confirmed to be in his prime when he fought Oden last chapter. And if hes gotten stronger its marginal at best. Not ''heads and shoulders''.

The rest of your post is more headcanon based off reaction piece.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Kaido was confirmed to be in his prime when he fought Oden last chapter. And if hes gotten stronger its marginal at best. Not ''heads and shoulders''.

If we go by his design Kaido reached his prime after oden's fight. He looks like wano Kaido.

 

[Fujishiro]

If we go by his design Kaido reached his prime after oden's fight. He looks like wano Kaido.

Hence why I said “If he got stronger” it was marginal.

Because he still viewed Oden as a threat and someone that can fight and also kill him.

 

[soupongo]

Eos Joyboy>Eos Imu>Eos Luffy is entirely possible

 

[Fujishiro]

Eos Joyboy>Eos Imu>Eos Luffy is entirely possible

The Shounen MC always surpasses their predecessors.

 

[soupongo]

The Shounen MC always surpasses their predecessors.

They also usually end up weaker then the final villains, and Luffy is definitely not beatng Imu 1v1 when he didn´t beat Cracker 1v1. Add that and the fact that Oda doesn´t let good guys lose 1v1s it´s going to be pretty hard to justify Luffy being stronger then Joyboy narratively. But idk, Oda might still do it.

 

[GodofDarkness]

Lol at people thinking that mural on the left is from 2nd world. Or Davey Jones was the King of the Ancient Kingdom.

 

[Blahmigooo]

Kaido was confirmed to be in his prime when he fought Oden last chapter. And if hes gotten stronger its marginal at best. Not ''heads and shoulders''.

The rest of your post is more headcanon based off reaction piece.

No official statement nor confirmation of Kaido prime.
Yes it's likely he'll be very close to his prime in the Oden flashback.
But unless i also see Kaido shaking his boots in agony from a sealed haki of Oden.
I can't make a good comparison on Joyboy Imu stuff which you seems to have claim some similarities with Kaido Oden

 

[Fujishiro]

No official statement nor confirmation of Kaido prime.
Yes it's likely he'll be very close to his prime in the Oden flashback.

In the chapter it was stated that they reached their primes after a decade or so. Thats less then 20, max 20 after GV lol, which was around when Oden fought him.

Unless i also see Kaido shaking his boots in agony from a sealed haki of Oden.

Worse, he was screaming like a pig from the 20+ years old scar hes got from Oden lol.

I can't make a comparison on Joyboy Imu stuff which you seems to have claim some similarities with Kaido Oden

Kaido was having PTSD from Oden, Imu has PTSD from JB.

 

[Blahmigooo]

In the chapter it was stated that they reached their primes after a decade or so. Thats less then 20, max 20 after GV lol, which was around when Oden fought him.

Worse, he was screaming like a pig from the 20+ years old scar hes got from Oden lol.

Kaido was having PTSD from Oden, Imu has PTSD from JB.

Yep it doesn't have to do with Scabbard stabbing him right to trigger it??
Kaido doesn't have ptsd 24x7 or everytime something has to do with Oden, there's also words of respect from him.
If anything he'll be glad new Oden or a stronger guy appears to fight him.

Unlike Imu who felt like he'll lose his mind if he witness Joyboy or hear something from him ever again.
And yes this is a supposedly new(successful)Joyboy who have a plot advantage and narratives over the past failed Joyboy.
Seeing how past Joyboy haki single handedly make Imu twerk.
Luffy with full power haki + DF might be overall below OG Joyboy if Imu gonna raid boss Luffy + allies.

 

[Fujishiro]

Yep it doesn't have to do with Scabbard stabbing him right to trigger it??
Kaido doesn't have ptsd 24x7 or everytime something has to do with Oden, there's also words of respect from him.
If anything he'll be glad new Oden or a stronger guy appears to fight him.

And yes this is a supposedly new(successful)Joyboy who have a plot advantage and narratives over the past failed Joyboy.
Seeing how past Joyboy haki single handedly make Imu twerk.
Luffy with full power haki + DF might be overall below OG Joyboy if Imu gonna raid boss Luffy + allies.

Damn I really got you all in your feelings lol. The scar was not stabbed he was screaming from that, he even said it was throbbing.

Unlike Imu who felt like he'll lose his mind if he witness Joyboy ever again.

More headcanon.

 

[Blahmigooo]

More headcanon.

Yep headcanon.
But this time i use my FS
I foresaw that Imu might get a heart attack if Joyboy physically appear on his doorsteps saying "wanna have fun?"

 

[Fujishiro]

Yep headcanon.

Then this discussion is useless lol.

 

[Blahmigooo]

Then this discussion is useless lol.

Ye
Lets only start an argument from now on.
When no headcanon, assumption or speculation is allowed.

 

[Fujishiro]

Ye
Lets only start an argument from now on.
When no headcanon, assumption or speculation is allowed.

No, you can use headcanon and assume things but the issue is when its stated as if its a fact lol.

 

[Blahmigooo]

No, you can use headcanon and assume things but the issue is when its stated as if its a fact lol.

Ok
Going back at original comments.
It is about how a supposed stronger Joyboy (prime Luffy) with even more powerful allies and plot advantage would fare against Imu who fking twerk from a sole haki of a supposed "weaker" version of Joyboy unless Luffy himself has to be weaker individually.

It is purely based on that canon scene we making some realistic assumption.
I don't know how Oden Kaido has to do on that regard and have no reason to discuss which made this whole long ass pointless arguments tbh, anyway i gotta go.