One Piece Episode 1153 - The Upheaval of an Era! The Color of the Supreme King That Leads Luffy

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Fujishiro

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#81
By the sounds of things, Joyboy may have had allies from certain countries like the giants and fishman island, but Imu was the one with the far larger unified force.

Joyboy was the king of a single kingdom if what we learnt at Ohara is to be believed.
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I think its far to say that Imu's PTSD around Joyboy is similar to what Kaido had going on with Oden.
The AK was far more civilized and technologically advanced. And likely ruled the world akin to the WG.

The 20 Kindgoms were probably vassals to it.

Also JB wasn’t the king of the AK, he was from it but he was a pirate.
 
#84
The AK was far more civilized and technologically advanced. And likely ruled the world akin to the WG.

The 20 Kindgoms were probably vassals to it.

Also JB wasn’t the king of the AK, he was from it but he was a pirate.
This seems quite contentious.

Was the ancient kingdom the ruler of the world, or just the most powerful country amongst peers?
 

Fujishiro

Humane Justice
#85
This seems quite contentious.

Was the ancient kingdom the ruler of the world, or just the most powerful country amongst peers?
This is just my assumption mixed with what VP and Clover said, they said the AK had no peers, they were far and away the most powerful Kingdom. So much so that it incited the other 20 to team up against it. Im now using the assumption that given that we know that Davey was the King of the world back then and that he was a pirate, and that JB was a pirate as well, that Davey was the King of the AK ( and by proxy the world as declared by Xebec) much like BB is trying to be King even though hes a pirate.

And Davey cant be from before JBs era since JB was declared to have been the first pirate.

So it was Daveys kingdom and JB vs Imu and the other Kingdoms imo.
 
#87
OMG, That was an amazing animation of JB’s Conqueror’s Haki. The way Luffy sensed and experienced that Haki was really good. Now the world is waiting for Godfy’s Haki.
 
#90
This is just my assumption mixed with what VP and Clover said, they said the AK had no peers, they were far and away the most powerful Kingdom. So much so that it incited the other 20 to team up against it. Im now using the assumption that given that we know that Davey was the King of the world back then and that he was a pirate, and that JB was a pirate as well, that Davey was the King of the AK ( and by proxy the world as declared by Xebec) much like BB is trying to be King even though hes a pirate.

And Davey cant be from before JBs era since JB was declared to have been the first pirate.

So it was Daveys kingdom and JB vs Imu and the other Kingdoms imo.
I got the impression that Joyboy was potentially the descendant of Davey Jones.
I guess we'll find out eventually, but I feel there is a definite link between Davey Jones and Joyboy we don't yet understand.
 
#93
I got the impression that Joyboy was potentially the descendant of Davey Jones.
I guess we'll find out eventually, but I feel there is a definite link between Davey Jones and Joyboy we don't yet understand.
I'm still betting on Davey D Jones = Joy Boy, just like Monkey D Luffy = Strawhat.
This knowledge just changed through the history and people now think they are 2 people.
 
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