Chapter Discussion Chapter 1069 🤔🤔(Fenrir/Thor DF, New Supreme Grade))

Which one is more likely to be the case

  • DF - Fenrir

  • DF - Thor

  • DF - Something else entirely

  • Harald, Xebec Legendary weapon being Supreme Grade

  • Harald, Xebec Weapon not being a Supreme grade

  • Ragnir is a Supreme grade

  • Ragnir is not a Supreme grade

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Cruxroux

Cruxroux

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  • The Devil fruit and Ragnir come in pair.
    • " I need to eat the fruit and take up Ragnir "
  • It could have two possibilities, either Hammer is a part/extension of the fruit. " or " least requirement to use that power, like Kidd would need metal around him to even utilise his fruit (bar awakening where he can turn other people into magnet).
" or "​
The fruit is overpowered like the types of Gura Gura no mi, Goro Goro no mi or Zushi Zushi no mi.

- these fruit are so overpowered that if the user goes all out, the damage would be chaotic. And would hurt the user and user surrounding as well.

  • Goro Goro no mi, is logia type, the element itself hence resistant to it's own type of damage. And special exception.
  • But Gura Gura no mi and Zushi Zushi no mi are Paramacia type and uses a weapon to channel their power and be precise with their powers.
    • Whitebeard Naginata is known for it's durablity and " Channel " his fruit to it's peak and precise attacks.
    • Same goes with Fujitora, he uses a Supreme grade blade to channel his power. Same could be said for Law Ope Ope no mi and Kikoku.
Possible fruits loki Has
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  • I'm more inclined to believe it's a Zoan type than Paramacia type, it could be special Zoan too, providing with no transformation but only Buffs and Powers.
  • Other reason to believe this is, Zoan fruit have a will of their own, Imu could have silentely taken the fruit after taking over Harald instead of creating havoc in the entire castle.
  • Possible fruits
    • Giant Giant no mi, Mythical model : Thor.
      • Giant because Thor is half Giant and Half "God". I doubt if there ever will be a " Kami Kami no mi ".
        • Human Human(Hito Hito) no mi is not possible as Thor was never a human unlike Buddha, (sengoku devil fruit, Buddha ascended human status to god, like Kaidou Fish fish fruit, where goldfish ascended to Azure Dragon)
      • Why?
        • Thunder powers. And Hajrudin was Scared of Loki lifting his hammer.
    • Thor epithet fits Loki character as well. THOR was considered ruthless in Norse mythology. Creating Destruction and Havoc everywhere.
  • Inu Inu no mi, Mythical Model : Fenrir.
    • Too many connections to wolf's.
    • Fenrir is also one of the Loki children in norse.
    • " Captured " by Tyr (Shanks of Norse) through trickery.
    • Waiting for the day to be unleashed on ragnarok, where he will end the world (consume sun and moon). Fits perfectly for Loki as he wants to destroy the world as well.
    • Also, cover page hints. Strawhats with a giant Wolf, Same color scheme as Loki.
These are the only two I can come up with,
Also,
  • The Weapon does not have a Devil Fruit.
  • It was Loki who was chained to Sea stone. With logic it doesn't make any sense if The weapon is the real deal with Devil fruit. Unless we see the first character to see With a DF himself and a weapon which has Devil fruit.
  • But if that was true, why leave one of the strongest weapon in the series alongside loki? That's the dumbest shit it probably wasn't the case Loki fought and was captured at the same place. He was more likely to be transported and chained to that place.
  • So why the weapon moving on it's own?
    • Probably one of the Bigmom Homie.
    • Or a Trap, which goes off if someone opens the vault to Devil fruit.
    • Cursed weapon like Enma and Sandai. These two weapon kill their own user or anyone who tries to weild it. But Ragnir most likely moves on it's own, if someone tries to forcibly weilds it.
Ragnar is most likely a Supreme graded Weapon as well.

on top of that, we might saw a new Supreme grade subtly hidden in thjs chapter which is Harald sword.

- Sword Capable of fighting against Xebec, and stalemating him.
- is called a " Legendary " Sword.
- i think it's obvious enough Xebec had a Supreme grade Weapon too.

With this, we have nearly all the Supreme graded weapons in the show.​
  • Already Confirmed
    • Ace
    • Murakumogiri
    • Shodai kitetsu
    • Yakuza Line
    • Yoru
  • From above " Assumptions "
    • Ragnir
    • Harald " Legendary Sword "
    • Xebec Sword
  • That's already eight of them. (Remaining 4)
    • Twin Swords
      • Figarland Twins
        • Gryphon
        • Cerberus
      • Shiki twin Blades
        • Oto
        • Kobayashi
    • Law Cursed Sword : Kikoku, Alongside Whitebeard and Fujitora, Law devil fruit falls in the same bracket. His weapon has to be strong in order to maximize Ope Ope no mi powers.
  • Shiryu : Raiu
- Though last four is still speculative. Though Shanks and Law swords are nearly confirmed as Supreme grade.
- Shiki was fighting alongside Legends, highly sus if he didn't have any Supreme grade when he himself hailed from Wano like Fujitora.
- Shamrock Sword is legit copy of Shanks Grpyhon. Almost Enma and Ame no habakiri situation. No doubt they will be in same tier.

- problem with Shiki weapon is I'm counting them as one, set of two sword counted as one. Unlike Shanks and Shamrock Sword. Both the swords are highly similar. No design or Color scheme change, just the same replica of each other. Almost as if designed to be used together only, not one at a time.
 
Impact

Impact

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#3
#3
I want to believe that Loki had eaten the legendary devil fruit, and that his weapon has a devil fruit too.

As it is, we know that there is a weapon and a treasure chest in the room. People are saying that the weapon had eaten the fruit without anybody knowing, but how? There's no explanation.

Are we to expect the treasure box is actually empty?
 
Kiri

Kiri

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#5
#5
Why is ragnir being included, unless I'm missing something.

The panel calls it the 12 supreme grade "blades" meaning any bladed weapon, spears, halberds, swords, axes, etc.

I'd like to think Ragnir is an ancient weapon that could be compared to any of the supreme grade blades, maybe even Yoru itself, but is simply in a category of it's own.

It's a legendary hammer. Unless we are really going with the databook, that says "blades" and then has kaidos kanabo in there with them.

Even the point is that they're graded, and as such ragnir would have to be graded, I don't think that's the case.
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It's being said that Shamrock sword is Xebec's sword, Garling took it from Xebec's corpse and held onto it to give it to his son.
 
Rootbeer

Rootbeer

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#6
#6
I don't think you're wrong in assuming that the Devil Fruit and Ragnir come in a pair..

When i read it in Japanese, it suggest to me that you must eat the Fruit to be able to obtain and wield Ragnir, one doesn't go without the other..


I don't really understand the connection between the Devil Fruit and Ragnir, but my wild stance for now is that the Soul within the Fruit is so powerful already in that state that it can be sentient and control Ragnir in mere fruit form..

I'm of the mind it will be a mythical paramecia.. But i guess it can be whatever.. I just hope it's not a fake God..

Also it can't be a Supreme Grade Blade, it can be a Weapon on par with Supreme Grade level though..
 
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