One Piece Chapter 1169: I HAVE TO DIE NOW!

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J

Jailer

You know I have been thinking of something

What if Imu takes control of Harald next chapter (similar to Gunko/Saturn) and and does an abyssal convenant on Loki? Meaning he could control Loki within a certain radius.

Otherwise why is Loki chained up? Gaban, Shanks, the surviving giant soldiers must have already figured things aren't adding up, Shanks knows Imu is controlling Harald, what is the play here by chaining Loki? Or is it only because he is overly destructive?

Gaban before the flsshback started said they haven't witnessed the full story but what full story? Or do they think Loki stabbed Jarul lol? Or did Oda have no idea what to do with Loki's and Harald's character at the beginning of this arc and now he will try yo shoehorn things in?

@TheAncientCenturion @TheKnightOfTheSea @NikaInParis @RayanOO @Garp the Fist @moreha9685 @Etzel Andergast etc.
 
You know I have been thinking of something

What if Imu takes control of Harald next chapter (similar to Gunko/Saturn) and and does an abyssal convenant on Loki? Meaning he could control Loki within a certain radius.

Otherwise why is Loki chained up? Gaban, Shanks, the surviving giant soldiers must have already figured things aren't adding up, Shanks knows Imu is controlling Harald, what is the play here by chaining Loki? Or is it only because he is overly destructive?

Gaban before the flsshback started said they haven't witnessed the full story but what full story? Or do they think Loki stabbed Jarul lol? Or did Oda have no idea what to do with Loki's and Harald's character at the beginning of this arc and now he will try yo shoehorn things in?

@TheAncientCenturion @TheKnightOfTheSea @NikaInParis @RayanOO @Garp the Fist @moreha9685 @Etzel Andergast etc.
Loki was chained 6 years ago. Harald's death was 14 years ago.

Whatever Loki did to have Shanks intervene (likely go on some kamikaze mission against MJ), happened long after his father's murder.
 
You know I have been thinking of something

What if Imu takes control of Harald next chapter (similar to Gunko/Saturn) and and does an abyssal convenant on Loki? Meaning he could control Loki within a certain radius.

Otherwise why is Loki chained up? Gaban, Shanks, the surviving giant soldiers must have already figured things aren't adding up, Shanks knows Imu is controlling Harald, what is the play here by chaining Loki? Or is it only because he is overly destructive?

Gaban before the flsshback started said they haven't witnessed the full story but what full story? Or do they think Loki stabbed Jarul lol? Or did Oda have no idea what to do with Loki's and Harald's character at the beginning of this arc and now he will try yo shoehorn things in?

@TheAncientCenturion @TheKnightOfTheSea @NikaInParis @RayanOO @Garp the Fist @moreha9685 @Etzel Andergast etc.
I think its because he is overly destructive. He said earlier he wants to destroy elbaf. Also: maybe his df is something that let the user in berserker mode
 

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Way more funny

Just Imagine giant nika grabs ragnir against the giants demon army :Rofl:
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You know I have been thinking of something

What if Imu takes control of Harald next chapter (similar to Gunko/Saturn) and and does an abyssal convenant on Loki? Meaning he could control Loki within a certain radius.

Otherwise why is Loki chained up? Gaban, Shanks, the surviving giant soldiers must have already figured things aren't adding up, Shanks knows Imu is controlling Harald, what is the play here by chaining Loki? Or is it only because he is overly destructive?

Gaban before the flsshback started said they haven't witnessed the full story but what full story? Or do they think Loki stabbed Jarul lol? Or did Oda have no idea what to do with Loki's and Harald's character at the beginning of this arc and now he will try yo shoehorn things in?

@TheAncientCenturion @TheKnightOfTheSea @NikaInParis @RayanOO @Garp the Fist @moreha9685 @Etzel Andergast etc.
There are lots of options here

Gaban and shanks saved him because he wanted to attack the wg to avange harald or xebec of both?

Or he thought that was the right moment to "destroy" the world? And then he go against the wg?

And maybe they know that the future king would have a big role in the future and he couldn't die before the final war?
 
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TheAncientGorosei

I will never forgive Oda
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You know I have been thinking of something

What if Imu takes control of Harald next chapter (similar to Gunko/Saturn) and and does an abyssal convenant on Loki? Meaning he could control Loki within a certain radius.

Otherwise why is Loki chained up? Gaban, Shanks, the surviving giant soldiers must have already figured things aren't adding up, Shanks knows Imu is controlling Harald, what is the play here by chaining Loki? Or is it only because he is overly destructive?

Gaban before the flsshback started said they haven't witnessed the full story but what full story? Or do they think Loki stabbed Jarul lol? Or did Oda have no idea what to do with Loki's and Harald's character at the beginning of this arc and now he will try yo shoehorn things in?

@TheAncientCenturion @TheKnightOfTheSea @NikaInParis @RayanOO @Garp the Fist @moreha9685 @Etzel Andergast etc.
That would be a goda moment for sure
 
You have a few things wrong here:
1. Your acting like a sentient hammer that moves of its own will doesn’t work with usopps sniping combat style. Due to the hammer being able to move on its own, it can be used as ammunition because it’ll return to Usopp post shot. Usopps sniping isn’t about him shooting a bullet out of a gun, it’s him shooting various abnormal and unique “Stars” at his opponent. And seeing how he’s used a “Hammer Shooting Star” in the past, idk why suddenly a hammer is now not aligned with his combat style.
Is this post serious or trolling?
 
J

Jailer

More to add, I think those who have the higher ranked convenants get the ability to give shallow convenant (like how Gorosei did to Harald without Imu's direct presence) but for other two Imu's presence is required

Hence why the range radius, unlikely but it could explain some things if Harald possessed by Imu gave the shallow convenant to Loki

This way Imu while manifesting through Harald can control Loki while within a certain range

Tho Loki was jailed long after. I think Loki just vent his anger on innocent/countries who were part of the WG, he got jailed for that most likely.

@TheKnightOfTheSea @TheAncientCenturion @RayanOO @NikaInParis @moreha9685 @Etzel Andergast etc.
 
You know I have been thinking of something

What if Imu takes control of Harald next chapter (similar to Gunko/Saturn) and and does an abyssal convenant on Loki? Meaning he could control Loki within a certain radius.

Otherwise why is Loki chained up? Gaban, Shanks, the surviving giant soldiers must have already figured things aren't adding up, Shanks knows Imu is controlling Harald, what is the play here by chaining Loki? Or is it only because he is overly destructive?

Gaban before the flsshback started said they haven't witnessed the full story but what full story? Or do they think Loki stabbed Jarul lol? Or did Oda have no idea what to do with Loki's and Harald's character at the beginning of this arc and now he will try yo shoehorn things in?

@TheAncientCenturion @TheKnightOfTheSea @NikaInParis @RayanOO @Garp the Fist @moreha9685 @Etzel Andergast etc.
its because the fruit, the fruit has its own will and Loki cant control it yet, he'll figure it out with Luffy
 
Usopp is a Sniper guys he's not getting Ragnir and that's just one of the many reasons why he won't get it.
Why ignore the blatant Gallelia lore of powerful giants wielding warhammers and the fact that Loki is being tied to the plot of bringing them back into the storyline, as well as the fact that Loki himself has always wielded a hammer?
usopp is awakening vander decken's mark/target fruit
 
You have a few things wrong here:
1. Your acting like a sentient hammer that moves of its own will doesn’t work with usopps sniping combat style. Due to the hammer being able to move on its own, it can be used as ammunition because it’ll return to Usopp post shot. Usopps sniping isn’t about him shooting a bullet out of a gun, it’s him shooting various abnormal and unique “Stars” at his opponent. And seeing how he’s used a “Hammer Shooting Star” in the past, idk why suddenly a hammer is now not aligned with his combat style.

2. This “god tier weapon” debate sounds like the same stuff people said about Zeus and Nami. Oda using top tier weaponry as a way of making the weak SHs viable in modern day combat is not out of the ordinary. Also I don’t think Ragnir is God Tier. Loki isn’t God Tier with it, despite having multiple other insane powers?

3. Ragnir in no way throws away Usopps core character, it enhances it. Usopps not going to become a head to head fighter with Ragnir, he’ll still be a liar, who can bluff his way to victory. A hammer that can be sniped, and hit an opponent on the return means that Usopp can set traps for his opponents using it. Such as shooting the hammer, having it “miss” to lower his opponents guard, then having the hammer knock them out by hitting his unsuspecting opponent from behind. Sounds like the perfect way to counter a teleporter like Van Augur as well. And none of these ideas are new, the Mjolnir theory’s been one of the oldest Usopp theories out there

4. Usopp Hammer being iconic is in no way cap. You mentioned two of Usopps most iconic scenes, now let’s not act like the pose with the 5/10 Ton Hammer isn’t up there as well. It certainly is because it’s one of the most famous poses for Usopp.

5. Loki is a minor character? He’s the arc royal that Luffy saves and befriends during the arc. And Nami got Zeus in an arc about a weather controlling witch, who Nami has been unknowingly connected to since Thriller Bark due to Lola.

I think you’re just misconstruing usopps fighting style where you don’t think Ragnir fits. But if you look back at it. A legendary hammer from the island connected to usopps dream that can be used as a shooting star and return to his hands or be swung with immense weight despite usopps physical weakness because it chose usopp for his heart and spirit is 100% aligned with his character and the perfect power up for someone who needs a sudden and immense boost like Usopp does going forward
usopps first 1v1 fight in arlong park was won with a hammer. usopp is a canonical hammer user
 
More to add, I think those who have the higher ranked convenants get the ability to give shallow convenant (like how Gorosei did to Harald without Imu's direct presence) but for other two Imu's presence is required

Hence why the range radius, unlikely but it could explain some things if Harald possessed by Imu gave the shallow convenant to Loki

This way Imu while manifesting through Harald can control Loki while within a certain range

Tho Loki was jailed long after. I think Loki just vent his anger on innocent/countries who were part of the WG, he got jailed for that most likely.

@TheKnightOfTheSea @TheAncientCenturion @RayanOO @NikaInParis @moreha9685 @Etzel Andergast etc.
I agree since the Shallow contract is done without seeing Imu while the others necessitate a meeting
 

TheAncientGorosei

I will never forgive Oda
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More to add, I think those who have the higher ranked convenants get the ability to give shallow convenant (like how Gorosei did to Harald without Imu's direct presence) but for other two Imu's presence is required

Hence why the range radius, unlikely but it could explain some things if Harald possessed by Imu gave the shallow convenant to Loki

This way Imu while manifesting through Harald can control Loki while within a certain range

Tho Loki was jailed long after. I think Loki just vent his anger on innocent/countries who were part of the WG, he got jailed for that most likely.

@TheKnightOfTheSea @TheAncientCenturion @RayanOO @NikaInParis @moreha9685 @Etzel Andergast etc.
It’s entirely possible, Somehow Xebecs relatives all were turned into demons s. I feel like characters with high enough pacts could give out weaker ones would explain that
 
The roger pirates after sailing all those years really knew nothing.

I'm honestly surprised Gaban doesn't seem to know about Imu and other stuff related to him. Like what's really did they learn if not Imu and his schemes?
 
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