Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[Soyz]

There are some interpretations of ratatosk having elemental powers like lighting, but who knows what oda will go for

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Who would argue that

An intelligent person

 

[Crow]

We got DF-DF fruit weapon merchants before we get GTA6

 

[ZenZu]

Did his feat of surviving a long fall as a baby and then toddler
Is an Ancient Giant which is better than an Oni (although they seem to be similar things if not the same race, but the size difference between Loki and Kaido and Loki having the Sauron eyes shows that Loki is far more special than Kaido)
Very likely having a mythical dragon fruit better than Kaido's mythical dragon fruit
Having a mythical zoan in his hammer
Etc.

Damn he really does sound like the upgraded version of Kaidou.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Loki above Kaido?
i thought you meant Loki weaker then Sanji and Zoro

Zoro and Sanji are the wings, so if Loki joins
Zoro&Sanji > Loki > Kaido

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

An intelligent person

Sarcasm

 

[TheD.]

The possibility that Loki is just an original OP god still exists lol, probably has a different name.

I really wanna know why he has those eyes

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Loki>Kaido>Sanji/Zoro deal?

 

[MonochromeYoru]

This is my only problem with the idea of someone like Loki being an absolute monster with 2 fruits at his disposal and ACoC

It seems like none of that mattered when he fought Shanks. A mythical zoan hammer, a mythical zoan that can bring about the destruction of the known world, conqueror’s haki infusion, ancient giant genes, everything

And he lost to a human with 1 arm, a sword, and haki lmfao

godking for a reason baby

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Damn he really does sound like the upgraded version of Kaidou.

It may sound hype and it is, but it shows how much of a hack writer Oda is. To spend all that time building up a villain and having him be the overarching villain of an entire saga just to immediately introduce another character who's just him but far better in every single way, is the writing of a hack.
I get powercreep exists in Shonens, but Oda wasn't thinking clearly here lol. He embarrassed poor Kaido

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

I think he just ran out of ideas

notice the 2 most recent logias introduces are Karasu’s soot logia and Greenbull’s forest logia and these two Logias kind of work like mythical Zoans right?

Greenbull has a “forest god” form that kinda looks like Sengoku’s Buddha form and Karasu transforms into crows

I think Oda was tired of how he himself does the logia powers and he started transitioning everything into this “mythical zoan” type situation. Either Oda was tired or he couldn’t think of anything else to do with logias

Your not wrong. Remember how he was spamming the same two attacks with Kizaru.

 

[Welkin]

What interest me is what about his fruit makes it require an ancient giant

Because based on what WorstGen he’s saying he’s big but not humongous since he could fit in the throne room

So it’s not like he’s some giant dragon the size of a chunk of Elbaf that could destroy everything

So if it isn’t size then what is it?

Cause I can’t really think of a mythical zoan special ability that would rely on either being an ancient giant or just being big in general

 

[TheD.]

This is my only problem with the idea of someone like Loki being an absolute monster with 2 fruits at his disposal and ACoC

It seems like none of that mattered when he fought Shanks. A mythical zoan hammer, a mythical zoan that can bring about the destruction of the known world, conqueror’s haki infusion, ancient giant genes, everything

And he lost to a human with 1 arm, a sword, and haki lmfao

Oda will wank shanks even if it transcends time space and logical reasoning

 

[park_min young]

I really wanna know why he has those eyes

It’s for aura bro

 

[Zoinks52]

This is my only problem with the idea of someone like Loki being an absolute monster with 2 fruits at his disposal and ACoC

It seems like none of that mattered when he fought Shanks. A mythical zoan hammer, a mythical zoan that can bring about the destruction of the known world, conqueror’s haki infusion, ancient giant genes, everything

And he lost to a human with 1 arm, a sword, and haki lmfao

I'm hoping it was:
A. A Wano scenario where there was lots of people fighting each other and Shanks exhausted himself fighting Loki

B. Shanks backstabbed Loki/got someone else to do it for him.

C. Loki allowed himself to be beaten out of secret internal self loathing (mental nerf)

 

[MonochromeYoru]

I guess Vegapunk fed ragnir the squirrel df when he went to elfab in secret?

But why?

 

[Crow]

Kaido the strongest creature of the world wanted to die but never ever went to the neighbor island 2 days flight away to fight the strongest giant with a legendary creature fruit

Also kaido,

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Ratatoskr FC only after chapter drops.

Fuck it do it now

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

This is my only problem with the idea of someone like Loki being an absolute monster with 2 fruits at his disposal and ACoC

It seems like none of that mattered when he fought Shanks. A mythical zoan hammer, a mythical zoan that can bring about the destruction of the known world, conqueror’s haki infusion, ancient giant genes, everything

And he lost to a human with 1 arm, a sword, and haki lmfao

We really don't know how it went down though

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Loki>Kaido>Sanji/Zoro deal?

@Paragorn disagrees

Either he joins and you massively upscale the wings (and Shiryu and whoever Sanji fights) or he doesn't.

Then yes. Loki > Kaido >>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoro and Sanji