Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[SkySanji]

Prime Gaban is when Roger became pirate king this is 15 years later

Prime isn't a single moment it is a period of time. 59 year old Kaido is universally agreed to be in his prime, Gaban is a similar age to that Kaido.

 

[Julius]

That wasn't prime Roger, this Gaban is roughly the same age as Wano Kaido.

Different primes, Queen is 57, Katakuri is 48. Zoro and Sanji are 21, Luffy is 19

 

[sanjikun]

Gaban should still be close to prime here tbh. Maybe 90% as strong.

 

[Definitivo]

Is there anyone out there who still doubts that GV Base Xebec was only low Yonko level? No one was in their primes at GV, and Xebec only would’ve reached PK level if he lived longer

"Low Yonko level" is a high estimate. Harald can't even defeat the hammer squirrel.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

I don't think even Prime Rayleigh could have beaten BB tbh. Maybe push him to extreme diff.

I think Prime Rayleigh was Admiral level. Probably ~ Kizaru with more stamina.

Rayleigh himself thinks he could have straight won

I mean maybe Rayleigh is wrong about his own power assessment but he genuinely believe his own hype

 

[Roronoa-sama]

His whole career is carried by having fought Shanks when they were toddlers

His whole career is killed thousand of Marines and had a bounty 3.6 Billions for his strenght. Unlike Saint Shanks or gabum who live for having strongest crews

 

[MonsterZoro]

Prime isn't a single moment it is a period of time. 59 year old Kaido is universally agreed to be in his prime, Gaban is a similar age to that Kaido.

Kaido has zoan devil fruit he will age better then normal human plus kaido was way weaker then Gaban in god valley so he got his prime later

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

I can't add prime Roger/Whitebeard/Garp to the list because neither Harald or Loki ever fought them.

You can scale using Rocks? You added a Rocks comparison in your chain before

can’t you find where Roger and Garp are based on Rocks?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That wasn't prime Roger, this Gaban is roughly the same age as Wano Kaido.

This Gabans about the same age as big mom. And hasn’t been fighting or training in a decade
“Prime”

 

[MonsterZoro]

Rayleigh himself thinks he could have straight won

I mean maybe Rayleigh is wrong about his own power assessment but he genuinely believe his own hype

And Gaban himself said he was 2nd strongest of roger pirates he genuinely believes his own hype

 

[sanjikun]

Rayleigh himself thinks he could have straight won

I mean maybe Rayleigh is wrong about his own power assessment but he genuinely believe his own hype

I've no doubt about Rayleigh's assessment of himself but I think he's slightly underestimating BB.

 

[Shiroyru]

Still waiting for Swordbros to explain to me what exactly Ipponmatsu meant when he said “real swordsman”

 

[SkySanji]

You can scale using Rocks? You added a Rocks comparison in your chain before

can’t you find where Roger and Garp are based on Rocks?

Xebec never fought Prime Roger/Whitebeard/Garp either.

 

[TheAncientGorosei]

A squirrel is stronger than Zoro.

And stronger than Linlin

 

[MonsterZoro]

Young Loki is stronger then prime kaido and big mom is crazy what is Oda thinking

 

[sanjikun]

But Gaban at no point should be able to break Imu-boosted Harald's defence. Even Prime.

He has hype, but not that much hype.

 

[Rootbeer]

Zoro would be as Useless as Gaban and Shanks against a God of Knight with CoC..

 

[HA001]

Still waiting for Swordbros to explain to me what exactly Ipponmatsu meant when he said “real swordsman”

Still waiting for rogers other fighting style.

 

[Julius]

Why is 60 + years old white haired Colon's father Gaban catching strays? This is 25 yo GodKing with 2 arms here, why isn't he spanking Harald 1vs1?

 

[MonsterZoro]

But Gaban at no point should be able to break Imu-boosted Harald's defence. Even Prime.

He has hype, but not that much hype.

Sanji will though eos against gorosei