Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1170 Spoilers Discussion

[AL sama]

Peeps need to calm down with the overhyping stuff.


Loki after all those power-ups appears to be only a little stronger than HK Harald, who ultimately needed to turn off his defense to allow Loki to kill him—still it's insane that Loki managed to damage him enough to gain his senses, but things are getting blown out of proportion here. It all comes down to how strong HK Harald is—especially when you compare him with Domi-Rocks. I wouldn't make any wild conclusions before learning how Shanks stopped Loki. We're gonna hype up or down base Rocks/Harald based on how Shanks will stop him.

Also, I wouldn't blame Gaban and Shanks for losing to Harald. Gaban at his absolute best is a match for pre-HK Harald but still weaker while Shanks is, perhaps, at current Zoro level or something. Shanks is basically as good as a non-factor. So this is basically Gaban vs Harald with a little distraction from Shanks. Props to Gaban for holding off Harald mostly on his own.

this is nothing new senpsi people always blow things up

 

[TheD.]

Dragon isn’t top 5 until further notice,dude hasn’t even fought the holy knights or even knew imu existed until sabo told him.

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this is nothing new senpsi people always blow things up

Nobody blowing anything out of proportion,Gaban sucks atleast shanks has an excuse.

 

[OPKnK]

Or Lightning boosts Black Haki Lightning output..

Loki get power boost from just eating the MZ DF that why his arms get claws .
Are people really going Loki not get strong when he eat a MZ when all the shit stacks upon each other .

 

[centurion]

Loki lives rent free in Gabum's head

@Elder Lee Hung

 

[Gol D. Roger]

How do you look at all this and still think Gaban did good here is beyond me

Even Roger and Garp couldn't damage Rocks too. GV Roger and Garp are perhaps ~Gaban but they're both individually >>>Flashback Shanks and the fodder giants. So it's pretty impressive that Gaban managed to hold off Harald practically on his own even if we assume HK Harald is a little weaker than Domi-Rocks, which we have no way of knowing.

 

[centurion]

@MonsterZoro

 

[OPKnK]

Dragon isn’t top 5 until further notice,dude hasn’t even fought the holy knights or even knew imu existed until sabo told him.

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Nobody blowing anything out of proportion,Gaban sucks atleast shanks has an excuse.

How gaban suck ?
At most Gaban would have been close to pre HK harald with harald being stronger .
People really think Gaban could some stop boost harald lmao .

 

[Gol D. Roger]

I think you didn’t read the spoilers.

It was prime Saint Shanks (the Saint Shanks who fought Mihawk), prime Gaban, and dozens of giants vs Harald. They couldn’t dent him and he was murdering the giants left and right.

Then wounded Loki comes in solo and overpowers Harald’s CoC armor while the likes of Gaban and prime Saint Shanks could not.

Objectively Loki far powercreeps Rival Man and the Seven Rivals level characters like Gaban and silver medalist Yonko like Saint Shanks even 2v1.

What will this mean if Shanks ended up defeating Loki 6 years ago?

 

[TheD.]

Even Roger and Garp couldn't damage Rocks too. GV Roger and Garp are perhaps ~Gaban but they're both individually >>>Flashback Shanks and the fodder giants. So it's pretty impressive that Gaban managed to hold off Harald practically on his own even if we assume HK Harald is a little weaker than Domi-Rocks, which we have no way of knowing.

When was it ever mentioned Gaban was holding off Harald?

 

[OPKnK]

Even Roger and Garp couldn't damage Rocks too. GV Roger and Garp are perhaps ~Gaban but they're both individually >>>Flashback Shanks and the fodder giants. So it's pretty impressive that Gaban managed to hold off Harald practically on his own even if we assume HK Harald is a little weaker than Domi-Rocks, which we have no way of knowing.

Agree why would anyone think Gaban would be near boost harald .
I doubt he was as strong as none HK harlad .

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Gaban and shanks literally didn’t do anything to help,Harald slaughtered all the elbaf guards unless you wanna say Gaban and shanks are indifferent to Civilian life? I doubt Oda will make his goody two shoes have a grey moment
@Gol D. Roger

They stopped him from going to Loki until he seemingly had an very high diff fight with the top-tier squirrel.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

What will this mean if Shanks ended up defeating Loki 6 years ago?

He didn’t. Lol

The hammer can solo Saint Shanks. I think yall are forgetting that we already know Lhanks was the weakest pre timeskip Yonko and Ragnir scales relative to Xebec who is above all Yonko.

 

[TheD.]

They stopped him from going to Loki until he seemingly had an very high diff fight with the top-tier squirrel.

He was busy slaughtering the elbaf soilders,they didn’t stop him lol.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

He didn’t. Lol

The hammer can solo Saint Shanks. I think yall are forgetting that we already know Lhanks was the weakest pre timeskip Yonko and Ragnir scales relative to Xebec who is above all Yonko.

Loki is as strong as Harald, Ragnir is as strong as Harald, and the legendary DF is strong enough to destroy the world, yet Loki is only strong enough to kill HK Harald if he let's Loki kill him. The math ain't mathing.

 

[Sentinel]

Loki lives rent free in Gabum's head

@Elder Lee Hung

It's like "Oh, you're the guy who beat Kaido? Cool. By the way, Loki is a serious mf. Nobody can stop him when he's released. Man, this guy even appears in my nightmares, that's how scary he is."

 

[Gol D. Roger]

He was busy slaughtering the elbaf soilders,they didn’t stop him lol.

Long enough for Loki to have a very high diff match? I doubt it.

 

[TheD.]

Loki is as strong as Harald, Ragnir is as strong as Harald, and the legendary DF is strong enough to destroy the world, yet Loki is only strong enough to kill HK Harald if he let's Loki kill him. The math ain't mathing.

He was strong enough to overpower imus contract and hold on Harald,not hard at all to understand.He knocked him off imus control so hard that he was briefly made un-immortal and clear headed.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Agree why would anyone think Gaban would be near boost harald .
I doubt he was as strong as none HK harlad .

Yup, that's what I am saying. Gaban at best is weaker than non-HK Harald or on the Sanji fans' best day is equal to him. Him fighting HK Harald with a little help from young Shanks is crazy impressive.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

@Gol D. Roger You’re aware that this Shanks is either slightly before or slightly after the one that fought Mihawk right.

The Mihawk vs Shanks duels were 12 years before pre-TS and this flashback is 14 years before post-TS

 

[Gol D. Roger]

@Gol D. Roger You’re aware that this Shanks is either slightly before or slightly after the one that fought Mihawk right.

The Mihawk vs Shanks duels were 12 years before pre-TS and this flashback is 14 years before post-TS

Bro, 4 weeks ago, Luffy was Katakuri level.