Controversial General Political Discussion

[sanjikun]

Because she’s been shamelessly promoting his products and using whatever she thinks his “legacy” is to make assloads of money?? Have you seen any footage of her since he died where she’s not smiling and hawking Turning Point merchandise?? Impossible to not make it political when it’s genuinely the only thing she’s done for three months, I’m not gonna remotely entertain the notion that it’s anyone else’s fault

So a widow is continuing to do what her husband was already doing... Crazy.

Again, I don't agree with their political views (mostly), but too many lines of decency were crossed on this one.

 

[Midnight Delight]

So a widow is continuing to do what her husband was already doing... Crazy.

Again, I don't agree with their political views (mostly), but too many lines of decency were crossed on this one.

In rural villages in 90% of the world, a widow acting like Erika Kirk would definitely have everyone calling her stuff about it

 

[Jew D. Boy]

So a widow is continuing to do what her husband was already doing... Crazy.

Again, I don't agree with their political views (mostly), but too many lines of decency were crossed on this one.

Why am I supposed to feel bad about a woman tarnishing her husband’s memory - a husband who, by the way, spent years wielding his political beliefs for profit - and treat any of this with respect when she clearly isn’t inclined to do the same? I’m not attacking her because she’s making money, but she’s not even playing the grieving widow angle the right way, so there’s not much utility in pretending that she is and handling her with kid gloves, she’s a grown woman who knows exactly what she’s doing and it’s pretty ghoulish.
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So a widow is continuing to do what her husband was already doing... Crazy.

Sorry to go back, but I take contention with this too…Charlie’s body wasn’t even cold in the ground before she picked up the mantle, I don’t know many people who lose their spouse (especially in such a violent, traumatizing way) and then go back to work less than a week later with a big grin and wide eyes, it’s just fucking weird. Doesn’t matter one bit if she’s just continuing the mission, she didn’t take any time to process what happened before willingly stepping in front of a dozen cameras; are you really telling me that doesn’t sound a little bit disrespectful to you??

 

[sanjikun]

Why am I supposed to feel bad about a woman tarnishing her husband’s memory - a husband who, by the way, spent years wielding his political beliefs for profit - and treat any of this with respect when she clearly isn’t inclined to do the same? I’m not attacking her because she’s making money, but she’s not even playing the grieving widow angle the right way, so there’s not much utility in pretending that she is and handling her with kid gloves, she’s a grown woman who knows exactly what she’s doing and it’s pretty ghoulish.
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Sorry to go back, but I take contention with this too…Charlie’s body wasn’t even cold in the ground before she picked up the mantle, I don’t know many people who lose their spouse (especially in such a violent, traumatizing way) and then go back to work less than a week later with a big grin and wide eyes, it’s just fucking weird. Doesn’t matter one bit if she’s just continuing the mission, she didn’t take any time to process what happened before willingly stepping in front of a dozen cameras; are you really telling me that doesn’t sound a little bit disrespectful to you??

Dude, imagine a family member of yours get shot in the fucking neck, and next the entire world is analyzing your every move, why you don't move your face in a certain way, how much time you should wail, etc. What happened to just leaving people the fuck alone to mourn?

If you want to criticize her political stances, do it, but getting into her personal life like that is just a sign of the times how morally bereft politics is nowadays where basic human decency doesn't exist anymore, it's just memes and passive aggressive shitposting.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Dude, imagine a family member of yours get shot in the fucking neck, and next the entire world is analyzing your every move, why you don't move your face in a certain way, how much time you should wail, etc. What happened to just leaving people the fuck alone to mourn?

If you want to criticize her political stances, do it, but getting into her personal life like that is just a sign of the times how morally bereft politics is nowadays where basic human decency doesn't exist anymore, it's just memes and passive aggressive shitposting.

her own husband was saying things like "the civil rights act shouldn't have worked" lol

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Dude, imagine a family member of yours get shot in the fucking neck, and next the entire world is analyzing your every move, why you don't move your face in a certain way, how much time you should wail, etc. What happened to just leaving people the fuck alone to mourn?

If you want to criticize her political stances, do it, but getting into her personal life like that is just a sign of the times how morally bereft politics is nowadays where basic human decency doesn't exist anymore, it's just memes and passive aggressive shitposting.

I think you aren’t catching my meaning, willfully or otherwise - she is not asking for privacy to mourn her loss, she immediately started a media campaign and is continuously making money off the deceased…if it was truly, deeply affecting her like it does most people, then she would take the time to process what happened, not instantly sell shirts and bumper stickers with his face plastered on everything. The only person making her do this is her, I don’t know why you’re on this soapbox when she’s making the conscious decision to go on TV every fucking day and show the world how happy she is in the wake of this tragedy; if anyone’s moral compass is broken, it’s hers, plain and simple.
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Like, the only reason the public can even analyze her every move is because she’s making sure each one is being meticulously documented on video…it would be different if the paparazzi and pundits were invading her privacy, but she is choosing to always put herself in the spotlight, so who’s really to blame here??

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

getting into her personal life like that is just a sign of the times how morally bereft politics is nowadays where basic human decency doesn't exist anymore, it's just memes and passive aggressive shitposting

US politics in a nutshell

 

[Luffy is the mc]

The better thing to ask is: were they all wrong about what they did and what they thought at the time and what would they think in our current times about it?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The better thing to ask is: were they all wrong about what they did and what they thought at the time and what would they think in our current times about it?

Marx is there twice with different pictures🤣

 

[Luffy is the mc]

US politics in a nutshell

The worst kind. And they export it in Europe, and we're stupid enough to adopt it.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Marx is there twice with different pictures🤣

AI

 

[Jew D. Boy]

The worst kind. And they export it in Europe, and we're stupid enough to adopt it.

Yeah, you Europeans have never made insane political choices on your own volition before, that totally plays

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

She obviously killed him lol

I've been reading Detective Conan for 20+ years now and got mad skillz at identifying culprits

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Yeah, you Europeans have never made insane political choices on your own volition before, that totally plays

It's not about choices. It's about reducing politics to individuals and fighting about it. We should be past that.

And yet we're here arguing about which fucker is better than the other.

And when american do not fight about individuals, they fight about a 2 system party, democrats and republicans, who have been doing the same shit since WWII, there is no difference between the 2 parties.

Don't see it as a personal attack because you know I have no issue with you or your opinions.

I'm just saying american politics, because they had the political power after WWII basically shaped the western views and ideologies.
They divided us in 2 camps, good and bad.

In the end it's always the same guys that are getting richer and the same guys that are getting poorer. And it's because they kept the poor fighting about useless things that divides us and makes us think that what they have is what we should aim for.

Western Europe is shit mainly because western medias import the shit from the US, and that is because they're owned by rich people who have interest in doing so.

But I see that more and more people see through their bullshit.

I could go on forever but I'll stop at that.

 

[Mathias]

Noooooo Wittgenstein, not you too

 

[Midnight Delight]

@Mathias
How do you justify your country's ally using Abu Bakr's quote to demand total submission from his people?

Is that something a country head should be saying in the year of 2025?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

It's not about choices. It's about reducing politics to individuals and fighting about it. We should be past that.

And yet we're here arguing about which fucker is better than the other.

And when american do not fight about individuals, they fight about a 2 system party, democrats and republicans, who have been doing the same shit since WWII, there is no difference between the 2 parties.

Don't see it as a personal attack because you know I have no issue with you or your opinions.

I'm just saying american politics, because they had the political power after WWII basically shaped the western views and ideologies.
They divided us in 2 camps, good and bad.

In the end it's always the same guys that are getting richer and the same guys that are getting poorer. And it's because they kept the poor fighting about useless things that divides us and makes us think that what they have is what we should aim for.

Western Europe is shit mainly because western medias import the shit from the US, and that is because they're owned by rich people who have interest in doing so.

But I see that more and more people see through their bullshit.

I could go on forever but I'll stop at that.

Fair enough, I’m not trying to say that American politics/society isn’t thoroughly toxic at the moment, partially because of the cult of personality Donnie’s built for himself as well as every single self-serving politician on either side of the aisle…and you’re right, it’s all about the money for everyone mentioned above, truly the root of all evil whether you have any or not

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Fair enough, I’m not trying to say that American politics/society isn’t thoroughly toxic at the moment, partially because of the cult of personality Donnie’s built for himself as well as every single self-serving politician on either side of the aisle…and you’re right, it’s all about the money for everyone mentioned above, truly the root of all evil whether you have any or not

The cult around Donald isn't a cause but a consequence but we can meet in a middle ground.

Remember, we're not enemies because we have different opinions, we're just 2 guys with different opinions about a topic which doesn't mean we can't get along with each other on many other things.

 

[Mathias]

@Mathias
How do you justify your country's ally using Abu Bakr's quote to demand total submission from his people?

Is that something a country head should be saying in the year of 2025?

What the fuck are you even talking about ?
Happy new year I guess

 

[AverageBuggyEnjoyer]

It's not about choices. It's about reducing politics to individuals and fighting about it. We should be past that.

And yet we're here arguing about which fucker is better than the other.

And when american do not fight about individuals, they fight about a 2 system party, democrats and republicans, who have been doing the same shit since WWII, there is no difference between the 2 parties.

Don't see it as a personal attack because you know I have no issue with you or your opinions.

I'm just saying american politics, because they had the political power after WWII basically shaped the western views and ideologies.
They divided us in 2 camps, good and bad.

In the end it's always the same guys that are getting richer and the same guys that are getting poorer. And it's because they kept the poor fighting about useless things that divides us and makes us think that what they have is what we should aim for.

Western Europe is shit mainly because western medias import the shit from the US, and that is because they're owned by rich people who have interest in doing so.

But I see that more and more people see through their bullshit.

I could go on forever but I'll stop at that.

Starting off 2026 with 5 star cooking

I almost made a post here about how the Loki flashback shows Xebec and Harald dealing with "The System" in different ways. One as a hardcore revolutionary seeking conflict, the other as “woke” seeking coexistence, and how they both got fucked by Imu in the end anyway lol

Felt like Oda was echoing my grandfather. He used to tell me "Both "sides" are fucking you, it's just one tells you it's “for your own good”, where the other laughs in your face every second they're fucking you"

But I’ll leave the OP politics analysis to my GOAT @Logiko