Current Events "Holy bums are a secret to the world"

#82
He could've simply said he's a soldier from the WG and the result would've been the same, there was absolutely no need for him to tell every single citizen in Elbaf he's from the Holy Knights if the group existence was supposed to be a secret.
You’re overthinking it. Sommers was just letting them know what group he is a part of, because they were going to be assimilated by force into the WG anyways, so secrecy didn't matter anymore
 
#83
He Is literally saying he came yo know them lol. In GV plenty of people saw them.

Dorry was alone on an island for 100 years and knew them.
Brook knew them.

Etc.

Idk why people keep fighting losing battles.
Admiral fans are something else man. If fucking Gaban didn't even know what the HKs were until they assaulted the Roger Pirates, why would your average citizen know? They obviously aren't counted in Robin's "greatest military power" statement. Dorry knew about the HKs because Sommers had announced their existence to the island just a few minutes ago
 
#87
Admiral fans are something else man. If fucking Gaban didn't even know what the HKs were until they assaulted the Roger Pirates, why would your average citizen know? They obviously aren't counted in Robin's "greatest military power" statement. Dorry knew about the HKs because Sommers had announced their existence to the island just a few minutes ago
@Shiroyru

What can I say?

We have plenty of statements of people knowing them, remote and closed off Erbaf included, but somehow Gaban saying he did came to know them seems to mean people don't know about them.

Not to mention useless, because saying HK>Admirals now is bascially admitting not reading the manga at this point.
Using that phrase of the military force is way beside the point now.
 
#88
@Shiroyru

What can I say?

We have plenty of statements of people knowing them, remote and closed off Erbaf included, but somehow Gaban saying he did came to know them seems to mean people don't know about them.

Not to mention useless, because saying HK>Admirals now is bascially admitting not reading the manga at this point.
Because all the examples you gave of people knowing them has a valid explanation?

Dragon? He’s the leader of the RAs. Him learning about the HKs is far from surprising

Akainu? He’s the fucking FA, ofc he knows them

Brook? Almost certainly has to do with his backstory

Dorry and Brogy? Sommers literally announced the existence of the HKs to Elbaf just a few chapters ago

The Prime Roger Pirates had no clue that the HKs existed. That makes it very obvious that the public has no clue about them either
 
#90
They obviously aren't counted in Robin's "greatest military power" statement
Garling issuing order to marines who know the statement Admirals are the strongest but appearently bums are a secret, therefore Garling is a nobody to them is just talking himself because marines aren't gonna listen commands from a random dude


Black horse who knows the statement "admirals are the strongest", just came up with a name holy bums out of nowhere.
Akainu who knows the statement about Admirals being the strongest obviously does not know the existence of holy bums because look how confused he is when their name was brought up
 
#91
Garling issuing order to marines who know the statement Admirals are the strongest but appearently bums are a secret, therefore Garling is a nobody to them is just talking himself because marines aren't gonna listen commands from a random dude


Black horse who knows the statement "admirals are the strongest", just came up with a name holy bums out of nowhere.
Akainu who knows the statement about Admirals being the strongest obviously does not know the existence of holy bums because look how confused he is when their name was brought up
Garling’s a Celestial Dragon, Marines would have to obey his orders regardless lmao.

Kurouma is a Zodiac VA. Given that regular VAs were given permission to look at Saturn’s Yokai form, it’s likely that VAs and up are informed about the HKs
 
#92
Have mercy, Whiroyru.
:risitears:
Idk why Admiral fans are being so weird about this. They’re obviously above run of the mill HKs like Sommers, it’s just that Admiral fans can no longer use that Robin statement to push Ryokugyu > Shamrock, which was always a braindead take
 
#93
Because all the examples you gave of people knowing them has a valid explanation?

Dragon? He’s the leader of the RAs. Him learning about the HKs is far from surprising

Akainu? He’s the fucking FA, ofc he knows them

Brook? Almost certainly has to do with his backstory

Dorry and Brogy? Sommers literally announced the existence of the HKs to Elbaf just a few chapters ago

The Prime Roger Pirates had no clue that the HKs existed. That makes it very obvious that the public has no clue about them either
As said, Brook has no history with the HK specifically: he has history with Gunko.

That statement about Erbaf Is cope: Dorry (and the likes) never ever said the didn't know the HK before that lol.
So, if tomorrow, an Admiral comes to Erbaf and says he's an Admiral, Dorry saying "are you an Admiral?" would mean he didn't know about Admirals before lol?

And so on and so forth.

HK have never been some secret force. People may not have seen them, but that Is another matter entirely.

* This, though, doesn't mean anybody knows about them. In the East Blue people were flabbergasted in front of the fruit users, obviously they wouldn't know about some secluded WG force.
Hell, the majority of them probably doesn't know about Admirals or Emperors too.
 
#94
As said, Brook has no history with the HK specifically: he has history with Gunko.

That statement about Erbaf Is pure cope: Dorry (and the likes) never ever said the didn't know the HK before that lol.
So, if tomorrow, an Admiral comes to Erbaf and says he's an Admiral, Dorry saying "are you an Admiral?" would mean he didn't know about Admirals before lol?

And so on and so forth.

HK have never been some secret force. People may not have seen them, but that Is another matter entirely.

* This, though, doesn't mean anybody knows about them. In the East Blue people were flabbergasted in front of the fruit users, obviously they wouldn't know about some secluded WG force.
Hell, the majority of them probably doesn't know about Admirals or Emperors too.
Give it a rest man.

Did Oda leak Brook and Gunko’s flashback to you?

As I said, Sommers literally announced to the nation that he is a HK and that the HKs are the ones behind the monster attacks and children being abducted.
 
#96
Secret or not, the Gorosei treat even the greatest of holy knights like insolent vermin
The same Gorosei who need protection by an Admiral


The same five whom Akainu mocks to their faces


In Egghead Kizaru refused to carry out direct order telling Saturn he wants to do it his own way
And then you have Saturn not even perceiving Kizaru’s movement



@Shiroyru btw is the same guy whom for two years twerked for Luffy defeating Kizaru then jobbing to Saturn
 
#98
Secret or not, the Gorosei treat even the greatest of holy knights like insolent vermin
The same Gorosei who need protection by an Admiral


The same five whom Akainu mocks to their faces


In Egghead Kizaru refused to carry out direct order telling Saturn he wants to do it his own way
And then you have Saturn not even perceiving Kizaru’s movement



@Shiroyru btw is the same guy whom for two years twerked for Luffy defeating Kizaru then jobbing to Saturn
Lol, I don’t see how Kizaru being Saturn’s bodyguard proves he’s stronger than Saturn. In anime, aren’t bodyguards usually weaker than the guy they’re protecting? Are Zeno’s bodyguards stronger than Zeno? Are Fu and Torune stronger than Lord Shimura?

Anyways, Admirals are still obviously >> guys like Sommers. You just can’t argue that Robin’s statement puts them above Shamrock, which was always a dumb and disingenuous argument anyways
 
#99
Secret or not, the Gorosei treat even the greatest of holy knights like insolent vermin
The same Gorosei who need protection by an Admiral


The same five whom Akainu mocks to their faces


In Egghead Kizaru refused to carry out direct order telling Saturn he wants to do it his own way
And then you have Saturn not even perceiving Kizaru’s movement



@Shiroyru btw is the same guy whom for two years twerked for Luffy defeating Kizaru then jobbing to Saturn
I like how, in the very same page you posted there, the Gorosei are also insulting Sakazuki and telling him that his honor is a trifling matter to them.
 
Give it a rest man.

Did Oda leak Brook and Gunko’s flashback to you?

As I said, Sommers literally announced to the nation that he is a HK and that the HKs are the ones behind the monster attacks and children being abducted.
Brook was surprised about Gunko being there/being a HK, so.

And as I said, when someone doesn't know about something, Oda makes It clear. As he did with the mugi, as he always does. He didn't in Erbaf with the Giants.

HK are no secret. Even Gorosei are no secret.
That Is another matter entirely from people actually having seen them or everyone knowing about them. As said, of you ask a random East Blue dude, he would obviously be oblivious to them.

Anyway, what's the point of all this? I think it's clear Admirals >>> HK regardelss of that statement.
Only Shamrock is debatable.
 
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