Future Events Strawhats gonna learn Haki in Elbaph

[Concasse]

So three things:

- Gaban, aka Rayleigh's counterpart, gives lessons to Zoro and Luffy about Conqueror's Haki.

- Sanji's potential Conqueror's Haki awakening in Elbaph.

- Chopper was wondering how could they hurt the Holy Knights, and until now everything points out Conqueror's Haki coating is the main way to deal with the 13 Immortals. Chopper's worry here shall end on himself and the rest getting aware of the necessity and importance of Haki (unless anyone believes Chopper is getting Conqueror's hahah)

If Scopper was shocked Zoro didn't even knew he could use Conqueror's Haki consciously, imagine if he finds out the rest of the crew can't even use Armament Haki.. (except Jinbe, and partially Franky and Usopp i guess?)

I think it's now or never: Sanji and Zoro having the 3 types of Haki shall cement the rest of the crew awakens CoA. I don't whats the reason behind this but it's now or never..

 

[milluki]

the final strawhat, boa hancock, will be haki teacher of weaker strawhats.

 

[Peepooman]

So three things:

- Gaban, aka Rayleigh's counterpart, gives lessons to Zoro and Luffy about Conqueror's Haki.

- Sanji's potential Conqueror's Haki awakening in Elbaph.

- Chopper was wondering how could they hurt the Holy Knights, and until now everything points out Conqueror's Haki coating is the main way to deal with the 13 Immortals. Chopper's worry here shall end on himself and the rest getting aware of the necessity and importance of Haki (unless anyone believes Chopper is getting Conqueror's hahah)

If Scopper was shocked Zoro didn't even knew he could use Conqueror's Haki consciously, imagine if he finds out the rest of the crew can't even use Armament Haki.. (except Jinbe, and partially Franky and Usopp i guess?)

I think it's now or never: Sanji and Zoro having the 3 types of Haki shall cement the rest of the crew awakens CoA. I don't whats the reason behind this but it's now or never..

He doesnt care, the straw hats arent side characters (who are main characters now) so the best they can get is reaction images with their eyes popping out

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Skeptical about the SHs learning Haki etc. just coz I don't think Oda is going to invest that much time in a training arc but it's true that the weaker SHs need more development.

One ting I reckon could potentially come into play is the emphasis Oda's been putting on "time" since the start of this arc.
- Louis Arnot's talk about it being dangerous to stay too long on Elbaf
- Gaban's time clock being a bit wonky not realizing that it's been years since Roger died.
- Emphasis on Loki's injuries taking months to heal
and so on...

There's also the Heavenly Realm on Elbaf which is still yet to be touched up upon.

Might be that there is some sorta correlation btw the two.

If time flows slower on Elbaf or rather the heavenly realm, it could have a lot of very interesting implications on the story.

Would be dope if the heavenly realm is some sort of hyperbolic time chamber of sorts. This will give the weaker SHs a bit of time to develop and also the stronger SHs time to master their abilities.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

the final strawhat, boa hancock, will be haki teacher of weaker strawhats.

Yes. And she will marry Luffy in the final arc in an epic 10 chapter wedding that is crashed by Blackbeard aka Luffy Piccolo Jr. where they have a Davy Back fight over Hancock, but Hancock murders Teach brutally instead and mails his body parts to the Celestial Dragons which gives them a heart attack, and then she appears before St. charloss and cuts his d off for graping her when she was a little girl and feeds it to him. The story ends with a huge table party.
Luffy uses riding on FRANKY takes Hancock hand and they go to their honeymoon, which is the last 3 chapters.

 

[Welkin]

Skeptical about the SHs learning Haki etc. just coz I don't think Oda is going to invest that much time in a training arc but it's true that the weaker SHs need more development.

One ting I reckon could potentially come into play is the emphasis Oda's been putting on "time" since the start of this arc.
- Louis Arnot's talk about it being dangerous to stay too long on Elbaf
- Gaban's time clock being a bit wonky not realizing that it's been years since Roger died.
- Emphasis on Loki's injuries taking months to heal
and so on...

There's also the Heavenly Realm on Elbaf which is still yet to be touched up upon.

Might be that there is some sorta correlation btw the two.

If time flows slower on Elbaf or rather the heavenly realm, it could have a lot of very interesting implications on the story.

Would be dope if the heavenly realm is some sort of hyperbolic time chamber of sorts. This will give the weaker SHs a bit of time to develop and also the stronger SHs time to master their abilities.

It’s the opposite actually iirc

Staying in Elbaf is actually worse for training since time moves faster on the outside and slower on the inside

1 day in Elbaf is 3 days outside. The HTC is 1 year inside = 1 day outside I believe

Post automatically merged: Jan 8, 2026

To respond to the thread I think we’ll see a few SH’s gain access to haki this arc if we’re lucky

Oda needs a reason to keep us on the island long enough for stuff to actually happen on the outside and I’d say that’s a decent enough reason

The SH’s will stick around while getting used to their haki with the help of Gaban. Longest I see them staying is a week or 2

But that’s more than enough given the time dilation. Should be about a month or 2 outside of Elbaf and Oda will do the usual where we get caught up with everything going on around the world

 

[PuckTheGreat]

It’s the opposite actually iirc

Staying in Elbaf is actually worse for training since time moves faster on the outside and slower on the inside

1 day in Elbaf is 3 days outside. The HTC is 1 year inside = 1 day outside I believe

Post automatically merged: Jan 8, 2026

To respond to the thread I think we’ll see a few SH’s gain access to haki this arc if we’re lucky

Oda needs a reason to keep us on the island long enough for stuff to actually happen on the outside and I’d say that’s a decent enough reason

The SH’s will stick around while getting used to their haki with the help of Gaban. Longest I see them staying is a week or 2

But that’s more than enough given the time dilation. Should be about a month or 2 outside of Elbaf and Oda will do the usual where we get caught up with everything going on around the world

ah! that's true
story telling wise I guess that'd be a good way to progress the plot and make the Blackbeard Pirates strong enough to be formidable enemies for the SHs.

Hmmn...so no hyperbolic time chamber for the SHs then lol
Still would be nice to have them grow a bit stronger though coz the SHs are mad top heavy atm, and the weaker SHs are showing the desire to grow so I really hope they have an opportunity to this arc ^^"

Time dialation wise though you're right. Gaban thought it'd only been 3~4 years since Roger died whereas it was 10 so we are again back with the x3 pattern Oda's been using with the Giants (i.e. Giants live x3 times longer etc.)

 

[Peppercat]

So three things:

- Gaban, aka Rayleigh's counterpart, gives lessons to Zoro and Luffy about Conqueror's Haki.

- Sanji's potential Conqueror's Haki awakening in Elbaph.

- Chopper was wondering how could they hurt the Holy Knights, and until now everything points out Conqueror's Haki coating is the main way to deal with the 13 Immortals. Chopper's worry here shall end on himself and the rest getting aware of the necessity and importance of Haki (unless anyone believes Chopper is getting Conqueror's hahah)

If Scopper was shocked Zoro didn't even knew he could use Conqueror's Haki consciously, imagine if he finds out the rest of the crew can't even use Armament Haki.. (except Jinbe, and partially Franky and Usopp i guess?)

I think it's now or never: Sanji and Zoro having the 3 types of Haki shall cement the rest of the crew awakens CoA. I don't whats the reason behind this but it's now or never..

If anything, I see Chopper come up with some medical knowledge or biological stuff about the bodies of Contract Bearers. Haki will still be necessary to actually damage or dismember them but he may realize a trick about their bodies to defeat them without it. Immobilize, incapacitate and so on.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Oda doesnt care, should be the simple answer. I believe we are going to get haki sharing soon which will allow the non-monster trio strawhts to contend with the Holy Knights during the final war.

 

[Welkin]

ah! that's true
story telling wise I guess that'd be a good way to progress the plot and make the Blackbeard Pirates strong enough to be formidable enemies for the SHs.

Hmmn...so no hyperbolic time chamber for the SHs then lol
Still would be nice to have them grow a bit stronger though coz the SHs are mad top heavy atm, and the weaker SHs are showing the desire to grow so I really hope they have an opportunity to this arc ^^"

Time dialation wise though you're right. Gaban thought it'd only been 3~4 years since Roger died whereas it was 10 so we are again back with the x3 pattern Oda's been using with the Giants (i.e. Giants live x3 times longer etc.)

I think some powerups are in order but we won’t be here as long as some people are speculating

Just a slight break but nothing too too crazy

Basic armament/observation for some of the SH’s at least

Feels like Robin is the main one that needs it ngl it’s been too long

 

[Rumble]

I cannot understand how Oda fucked this up so badly.

It was a mistake to have only the Monster Trio have Haki post-skip. It should have been that they were the only ones with both Armament and Observation.

At the very least, Brook and Robin should've had Armament.

I was fine with Dressrosa being the arc where the other crew either learned their first or second form of Haki, it just should have stayed consistent.

Observation in general should be highlighted more in its passive use, but Oda insists on leaving the reader to fill in the gaps. The same goes for passive protection with Armament.

 

[Sbinotto]

Oda:

 

[Salah WG]

Usopp already have CoO, He doesn't need CoA
Luffy and Zoro have All Three
Jinbe and Sanji have CoO - CoA (Sanji might or might not get CoC)

Nami doesn't need Haki
Robin doesn't need Haki
Franky doesn't need Haki
Chopper is still Very Young, He might not Learn it at this Age

Imo only Brook should learn Haki soon.

 

[Welkin]

Usopp already have CoO, He doesn't need CoA
Luffy and Zoro have All Three
Jinbe and Sanji have CoO - CoA (Sanji might or might not get CoC)

Nami doesn't need Haki
Robin doesn't need Haki
Franky doesn't need Haki
Chopper is still Very Young, He might not Learn it at this Age

Imo only Brook should learn Haki soon.

Why does Robin not need it? She needs it more than almost any other Strawhat

Armament haki significantly reduces the threat of any damage she takes returning to her original body. Not to mention armament coated Hana-limbs make her much much stronger

Demonio with full body armament? She jumps tiers

If Luffy’s goal is to have a PK level crew (which he won’t, he’ll actually go beyond that and have a Joyboy tier crew) we need more of the Strawhats to tap into these different abilities

Franky is one of the only Strawhats that doesn’t need haki cause pretty much everything he’d gain from armament could be replicated with technology. Emeth was hakiless and broke off one of Warcury’s horns

Robin, Brook, and Chopper need it 100%. Nami might not need armament but she’d grow quite a bit with some mastery over observation

 

[Bad English]

They don't

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

It’s the opposite actually iirc

Staying in Elbaf is actually worse for training since time moves faster on the outside and slower on the inside

1 day in Elbaf is 3 days outside. The HTC is 1 year inside = 1 day outside I believe

Post automatically merged: Jan 8, 2026

To respond to the thread I think we’ll see a few SH’s gain access to haki this arc if we’re lucky

Oda needs a reason to keep us on the island long enough for stuff to actually happen on the outside and I’d say that’s a decent enough reason

The SH’s will stick around while getting used to their haki with the help of Gaban. Longest I see them staying is a week or 2

But that’s more than enough given the time dilation. Should be about a month or 2 outside of Elbaf and Oda will do the usual where we get caught up with everything going on around the world

Imu has won. Coby is dead. Hancock is enslaved. Sabo’s head is on a pike. Dragon is in jail.Blackbeard died of AIDS

 

[Salah WG]

Why does Robin not need it? She needs it more than almost any other Strawhat

Armament haki significantly reduces the threat of any damage she takes returning to her original body. Not to mention armament coated Hana-limbs make her much much stronger

Demonio with full body armament? She jumps tiers

If Luffy’s goal is to have a PK level crew (which he won’t, he’ll actually go beyond that and have a Joyboy tier crew) we need more of the Strawhats to tap into these different abilities

Franky is one of the only Strawhats that doesn’t need haki cause pretty much everything he’d gain from armament could be replicated with technology. Emeth was hakiless and broke off one of Warcury’s horns

Robin, Brook, and Chopper need it 100%. Nami might not need armament but she’d grow quite a bit with some mastery over observation

Don't need it, doesn't mean They don't get Stronger if They get it, ofc They would, but that applies to any other Power really, why don't They learn Rokushiki? Why not eat a DF? Why not practice a different Fighting Style completely?

This isn't about what makes them Stronger, this is about what makes their Signature Attack more Effective, that's all,

Robin's Grabs and Clutch and using your strength against you doesn't need CoA,
Franky bombarding you with latest tech also doesn't require CoA,

 

[Wh1p]

Imo only Brook should learn Haki soon.

Brook learned soul coating over the timeskip which is imo his own form of haki as an undead

 

[Salah WG]

Brook learned soul coating over the timeskip which is imo his own form of haki as an undead

True, but imo his Soul coating indicate that He actually belongs in Afterlife.
As indicated by Luffy and Zoro, you will die if your Haki is depleted, that means it doesn't travel with you to afterlife, similar to DFs who also have such Restriction, Brook is "Only" exception, his DF ignores a DF Rule which allowed him to be such Unique Being,

Brook's Soul Coating is what He can do in this Life? That means He should be able to Use Haki in Afterlife, and I've always said that Brook is Main Key Character of Holy Knights Saga which turned out to be Imu Saga,

After seeing Abyss Circle, Domi Reversi, Hell References, Gunko Childhood, CoC Useless against Imu, Secret Room (Cold similar to Afterlife), I don't have doubts that Brook is Anti-Imu,

Haki works against Imu, except it must be against its real Body in Afterlife, similar to Perona Trick.
So yeah I think Brook can use Haki in Afterlife where his Soul truly belongs.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

I doubt it. Oda will give them all their unique power ups.