Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1171 Spoilers Discussion

What will be Loki next power ?


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Imu did not know shit either because harald thinking that the DF would be able to kill him end up being the case.
Harald straight out wanted to died he told loki with power of God he would be unstoppable and Loki should eat the DF.
Then kill him and take the throne either way harald bet paid off with what he know with the DF.
Loki was able to make him come back to his sense which allow harald to let loki kill him .
Imu has nothing to do with Harald’s reasoning in that moment. Harald’s rationale for forcing Loki to eat the fruit was already made explicit. First, Harald felt a massive surge in his own power. Second, the fruit’s reputation is tied to world destruction. From Harald’s point of view, no one in Elbaf could ever stop him anymore unless it was Loki armed with the fruit’s power. Immortality was not the sole issue here, Harald’s raw strength was.

The story then resolves this in a very straightforward way. Loki dominates Harald in a clean 1v1, which directly validates Harald’s rationale. Loki possessing the aCoC potency required to actually kill Harald ends up being coincidental.

Only afterward does the narrative clarify the mechanics. Both Gaban and Loki later (present day) confirm that aCoC is the actual answer for the Holy Knights. That understanding came specifically from confronting Harald. Gaban even explicitly states that the Holy Knights are not truly immortal in this context. Loki himself only comes to realize that his aCoC was the decisive factor, and Harald was the only immortal opponent Loki had ever fought.

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Solution to standing up to an AMPED HARALD, one of the strongest fighters in existence = Legendary devil fruit with a world-ending reputation

Solution to immortality = potent enough aCoC
 
Why would Shanks stop Loki from attacking the government Shanks is plotting to destroy? Maybe he knows about the prophecy and knew any attacks against the WG until Nika came would be futile so he was tryna save Loki
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Gaban is shocked that someone could kill a Holy Knight; he and Jarul are extremely impressed by Loki's devilfruit power.
Imu himself is extremely shocked; he thought Harald was unbeatable with his strength, he thought no one ever could defeat Harald..
Deep Sea Contract Harald > DR Xebec confirmed
 
Why would Shanks stop Loki from attacking the government Shanks is plotting to destroy? Maybe he knows about the prophecy and knew any attacks against the WG until Nika came would be futile so he was tryna save Loki
Pretty much

Or even, if you’re planning to rob or attack a place you want everything to go meticulously. If someone other idiot storms in and almost succeeds, that said place could respond by improving their security or smth to make your original goal even harder
 

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Given Loki's character, the second he left Elbaf, with a small army backing him up no less, Mariejois should've been destroyed. Oda wrote himself in yet another corner.
Shanks didn’t believe so. Xebec thought he needed another legendary fruit, Harald with his fruit. Ancient weapons and his crew.
Maybe he knows about the prophecy and knew any attacks against the WG until Nika came would be futile so he was tryna save Loki
Shanks hate makes them blind.
 
Why would Shanks stop Loki from attacking the government Shanks is plotting to destroy? Maybe he knows about the prophecy and knew any attacks against the WG until Nika came would be futile so he was tryna save Loki
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Shanks knew that if Loki fought Imu he’d lose and the legendary fruit of Elbaf would end up in the WGs hands. As such Shanks stopped him knowing that Nika was coming soon since this took place after Shanks met Luffy and ate the Nika fruit
 
Yeah shanks beat Loki fair and square. It wasn’t some 13v1 since Loki had a small crew of ancient giants nor was it Shanks convincing Loki to not attack MJ since we see now that they tried that before. Only one Thing could’ve stopped Loki, force.
Shanks drug loki with green alcool and chain him no way he took him 1v1 even 13v1
 
@park_min young @Kurozumi Wiwi I told you m8s Loki wanted revenge on MJ and Shanks stopped him.
Still no context on how he captured him. Unless y’all really think that Shanks knocked him out in a 1v1 then dragged him back to Elbaf? 😂👌

Just wait for the context lol, Loki promised to say where Shanks currently is to Luffy. There will be caveats to this capture, Loki himself still thinks that he could eliminate any pirate crew in the world.
 
Why would Shanks stop Loki from attacking the government Shanks is plotting to destroy? Maybe he knows about the prophecy and knew any attacks against the WG until Nika came would be futile so he was tryna save Loki
He knows that Loki can't do anything against the WG and is acting emotionally and foolishly.
Rather than letting Loki go and getting killed, it would be better to stop him, as he could be useful in future wars.

Loki is Harald son, the future Elbaph king, has the Elbaph's legendary fruit, much potential, letting him die would be a waste.
 
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