Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1171 Spoilers Discussion

[Elder Lee Hung]

@Elder Lee Hung , @DarkestKnightofSpoilers , @Sentinel , @Dragon777 , @Bogard , @Kurozumi Wiwi , @MonsterKaido
Translation of the Gaban scene:
"Gaban: I thought Harald might leave the castle and end up destroying the world. I could just imagine a world of such despair… that body, endlessly regenerating no matter how much damage it took. I never thought there was a way to stop it…!! To think that the sacred treasure of Elbaph holds such power… Jarul… "

That is the same guy who is at least equal to Rayleigh, who saw and know all top tiers...
THIS IS A HUGE LOKI UPSCALE...

You literally had Gaban and Imu twerking for Harald and hyping Loki feat yet people place this guy below top tiers...

At this point, denying that Loki is god tier is the minority position lmfao.

When this all started, only a select brave few like myself correctly pointed that Woki was our introduction to the God tier,

And now it’s legitimately impossible to argue that the likes of Prime Gaban and Mihawk-rival Saint Shanks push Woki past flea diff

I’m 100% sure you have to be an extremely strong being to even do much with the fruit.
@Elder Lee Hung @Djordje @Sentinel @MonsterKaido
Lol what did I say, i said people are gonna still say Lokis hard carried by his fruit and that they’ll have to get imu himself to say Loki is a extremely strong force shit is so easy to predict how people will cope.

I don’t even get the argument. Lol

Imagine trying to downplay Loki by arguing that Loki’s devil fruit is what makes him so strong? I just don’t get it at all.

It’s also factually wrong as base Loki legitimately scales above every pirate of all time, but I don’t even get the cope on its face lmfao.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Harald stood there defenseless and let Loki land the final blow lmfao.

Why did Harald stand there defenseless? What allowed him to regain his mind?

It just happened right, nobody overpowered him or anything right

 

[Dragon777]

Harald stood there defenseless and let Loki land the final blow lmfao.

Yeah, after Loki beat him black and blue and Harald came back to his senses.

Now we even have Gaban explicitly saying he was unstoppable for anybody before that.

 

[RayanOO]

So Loki’s floor for power scaling is above Prime Beard/Roger and his ceiling is above the entire old Gen together.

Dabura stares diff

 

[kekaro]

This is what I'm saying, Gaban stated the only problem was the regen, not Harald's strength itself. If it turns out that Loki's fruit specifically gives him a matchup advantage against immortals then WB, Roger, Garp etc... are all safe. Loki is not immortal.

That would mean haki transcends all is even more cope than people made fun of it tho

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Dabura stares diff

JJK verse is above the OP verse after the last chapter

 

[RayanOO]

JJK verse is above the OP verse after the last chapter

FTL++++++++

 

[HeroesNZ]

That would mean haki transcends all is even more cope than people made fun of it tho

But isn't that just cos none of these guys possess Joyboy level haki

 

[Bogard]

Gaban: I thought Harald might leave the castle and end up destroying the world. I could just imagine a world of such despair… that body, endlessly regenerating no matter how much damage it took. I never thought there was a way to stop it…!! To think that the sacred treasure of Elbaph holds such power… Jarul…



It literally cannot be more over for Prime WB and Garp. Roger by extension.

How much longer y'all gonna hold out @Nidai_Kitetsu @RayanOO @HeroesNZ

Roger and Garp were in the same situation against DR Xebec to be fair until Roger discovered the "mass" thing. If he didn't, they would have lost. Gaban simply never experienced it

 

[sanjikun]

That would mean haki transcends all is even more cope than people made fun of it tho

Nope, Haki was how DR Rocks was defeated. Young Shanks/Old Gaban Haki just didn't have strong enough Haki.

Loki countered Imu's DF because of his own DF. The ACoC was just there to finish Harald off, once the regen wore off.

 

[soupongo]

Sanjikun and Nik teaming up against Loki is kind of wholesome. Loki being introduced can finally unite the Condom and Zolo fanbase, just like how condom and Zolo would need to team up against Loki in the actual manga

 

[TheD.]

The reason the overwhelming power argument doesn't make sense here is because Loki did not actively use his DF to kill Harald.

He was in base, with Ragnir, but it was stated that he was still using the treasure of Elbaf, which is the fruit. Meaning he was using a passive/less visually obvious ability of the fruit, which is what I believe allows him to kill immortals.

If Ragnir and ACoC was enough overwhelming power, then why did Gaban refer specifically to the DF being the reason Loki killed HK? Perhaps we need to wait for the Viz translation on this part, but Gaban could've commented on Loki's haki but didn't.

Gaban's statement must've been referring to HKs without CoC, as we now know that Gaban cannot kill an immortal who has CoC.

Nothing suggests Harald needed someone who could overpower his raw strength as Jarul and Loki already pinned him down at one point, and Gaban/Shanks already showed they would've been strong enough to stop him if Harald didn't negate the slowed regen with his own CoC.

Dude wtf are you talking about gaban and shanks where legit screwed it loki didn’t pull up,did you even see the raws and summary?their only feat was cutting Haralds leg which he regenerated the panel after.

 

[Dragon777]

This is what I'm saying, Gaban stated the only problem was the regen, not Harald's strength itself. If it turns out that Loki's fruit specifically gives him a matchup advantage against immortals then WB, Roger, Garp etc... are all safe. Loki is not immortal.

Hell, if that's the case you could even end up with Shanks > Loki. Keep calm and wait for the godking.

Of course the major problem wa the regen: if someone Is completely Immortal, even in 100vs1 you can't do anything no matter what.

Doesn't change the fact Harald wiped the floor with then in minutes or was Xebec's level even before the boost.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Sanjikun and Nik teaming up against Loki is kind of wholesome. Loki being introduced can finally unite the Condom and Zolo fanbase, just like how condom and Zolo would need to team up against Loki in the actual manga

Anyone with half a brain can see right through the insane Loki wank thats being pushed by Admiral fans.

 

[kekaro]

But isn't that just cos none of these guys possess Joyboy level haki

"Haki transcends all because maybe the guy that existed 900 years ago killed a hk, but not dodger and his compariots, to achive the feat of eating a fruit instead" Im sure Laido was doing ancient research to make this point

 

[sanjikun]

But yeah my guess is Loki's DF actually FREEZES your DF powers temporarily, like the Yami Yami no Mi, in addition to the physical freezing.

I hope next chapter we'll get some explanation.

 

[kekaro]

Sanjikun and Nik teaming up against Loki is kind of wholesome. Loki being introduced can finally unite the Condom and Zolo fanbase, just like how condom and Zolo would need to team up against Loki in the actual manga

Loki is everything they wish kekhawk and lolmingo want to be

+ he is not bald

 

[TheD.]

Sanjikun and Nik teaming up against Loki is kind of wholesome. Loki being introduced can finally unite the Condom and Zolo fanbase, just like how condom and Zolo would need to team up against Loki in the actual manga

How the anti loki mob is moving rn

 

[kekaro]

Nope, Haki was how DR Rocks was defeated. Young Shanks/Old Gaban Haki just didn't have strong enough Haki.

Loki countered Imu's DF because of his own DF. The ACoC was just there to finish Harald off, once the regen wore off.

"Nope [Headcanon]."

 

[Dragon777]

Anyone with half a brain can see right through the insane Loki wank thats being pushed by Admiral fans.

Even after Gaban explicitly said HK Harald > Prime WB you are still denying Loki's place?

At this point only the denial is insane.