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What will be Loki next power ?


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Which parallels Domi Xebec. Shanks and Gaban were struggling to do lasting damage on him, just as Garp and Roger were with Xebec. Thanks to Harald's AdCoC, that's the separation between him and the others.
Maybe, the point is tho the roger pirate strategy seemed to be hit them with adcoc and that didnt work. And there is no implication that Gaban suggest that would even work.

Which is different than xebec dr. Garp and Roger didnt say xebec keeps regening, they said they cant damaging at all. Once they actually hit he was donzo.
 
Which parallels Domi Xebec. Shanks and Gaban were struggling to do lasting damage on him, just as Garp and Roger were with Xebec. Thanks to Harald's AdCoC, that's the separation between him and the others.
Again, you're making an assumption that it's purely based on individual strength, and not strength + some counter within Loki's DF.

There is 0 chance Loki's Haki > Roger + Garp Haki's combined, meaning something about the DF counters Imu's DF.
 
After the Loki flashback we can confidently say:

WSM title = fraudulent and unearned
WSC title = fraudulent and unearned
Hero of the Marine = fraudulent and unearned
Champion of God Valley = fraudulent and unearned

Bro it’s so over for titles in this series
I will never use the “world government’s greatest powers” for the admiral agenda after this flashback because I’m not retarded
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
When I say it's not because of Harald's strength, I mean if you take HK Harald's regen away and just have his strength buff, he canonically loses to Gaban and young Shanks lool.

Nothing suggests HK Harald without regen is stronger than someone like Prime WB.

The problem is that this is a high top-tier who instantly heals from every attack. Atp there is nothing anyone can do, hence Gaban's statement. At some point, you'll get tired and he'll kill you.

Harald is not like DR Xebec — Xebec has a CoC barrier which was the issue. Harald did not have a CoC barrier, he just healed from everything.
Makes you wonder why Gaban thought Loki stood a better chance than both him and Shanks then.

Based on what I'm seeing this is all new to Gaban, he didn't even expect Loki to kill Harald, neither did Shanks.

Regardless though at the very least Loki should be > Harald now. There's no point to Oda dropping so many points in his favour like this otherwise.

The reason this is so shocking is because it's literally a Prime WB lvl guy walking around with immortality. That's basically what Gaban and Imu are emphasizing, and why this was so shocking. Someone already at the top of the verse, gaining a buff and immortality should not be losing.
 
This is the Shanks that Mihawk was having legendary duels and this flashback has completely obliterated all title scaling
title and rumor scaling was oblitrated by common sense 29 years ago, and for the slow ones in god valley.
You have people like wb running as wsm or koido claiming no one can beat him while they got their ass clapped by imu lol diffing them and the pirate king not able to kill saint summers or being powerless against a hk with Adcoc.
Anyone who thinks WB was the strongest at any point in time on the planet is a massive retard
 
After the Loki flashback we can confidently say:

WSM title = fraudulent and unearned
WSC title = fraudulent and unearned
Hero of the Marine = fraudulent and unearned
Champion of God Valley = fraudulent and unearned

Bro it’s so over for titles in this series
Its fucking funny that garp came out of this flashback better than any living old legend despite having the most "unofficial" title
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
There is 0 chance Loki's Haki > Roger + Garp Haki's combined, meaning something about the DF counters Imu's DF.
Loki's haki + DF can be > Roger + Garp's haki.

In case you forgot, Roger and Garp don't have a df. Loki does... and it's being wanked to the moon, no one said only haki adds to your powerlvl. Luffy and BB will be the same.
 
Unironicly not new info
Gaban was Roger equal and we saw in GV 90% of old legends were about the same level. We saw how gaban performed against HK harald with the help of shanksu
This "reveal" comes only as a shock if you are a swordbro coping about gaban or dodger bro coping about prime dodger
There's zero surprise for me either, Harald was portrayed to be ~ Xebec who is a solid candidate for strongest pirate of the old gen. Of couse his boosted version would be above any of them but some people (yonko fans) tried to convince themselves that Harald was actually much weaker than Xebec and that all his portrayal was "fake"
 
Yes, which means Loki did what the entire world couldn't do.

Hence, Loki > the entire world combined.

But somehow Shamrock's dog reduced him to 1 HP.
Loki did that because he alone had the power to damage Harald and go beyond the HK regen + his CoC.

If you don't reach the threshold, all your attacks are untilmately useless.
 
There's zero surprise for me either, Harald was portrayed to be ~ Xebec who is a solid candidate for strongest pirate of the old gen. Of couse his boosted version would be any of them but some people (yonko fans) tried to convince themselves Harald was actually much weaker than Xebec and all the portrayal was "fake"
Shout outs to the special individual who said "i guess harald is not that strong where sky splitt????"
 
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