Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1171 Spoilers Discussion

What will be Loki next power ?


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Get to actually see Loki
Not Loki after becoming a playable character
Well to be fair it wouldn’t be Loki it would be DR Loki

Everything we see from him would be far superior to what he can accomplish individually

As a Loki fan that’s like the last thing I want. You being a Loki fan yourself I’m surprised you want it

One of my favs being turned into a zombie
 
What would need to happen to convince you that he’s dead? If we’re going into the Final War and still haven’t heard a thing about Kid, would you say that he’s probably dead atp?
I think I would be convinced at that point, but there´s always the possibility he´s in a cover story or something randomly, like Pound lol
 
Well to be fair it wouldn’t be Loki it would be DR Loki

Everything we see from him would be far superior to what he can accomplish individually

As a Loki fan that’s like the last thing I want. You being a Loki fan yourself I’m surprised you want it

One of my favs being turned into a zombie
I ain’t no Loki fan, I just put this pfp up as soon as his eyes got revealed cuz it’s funny asf

he’s alright though

and yeah you’re right, DR Loki wouldn’t truly be him either
 
We already have Imu here, no?

And there’s a chance that Luffy + Loki might not be enough for Imu and he requires some Brook shenanigans

Don’t see how DR Loki would be more climactic than that

Also not a fan of him being DR’d so soon after we actually learn about him and before he really gets a chance to shine in the present

Oh wow he gets some screentime/moments for 3 chapters before he gets turned! Amazing!

Would be lame to me
 
The irony of complaining about people taking hype statements too literally, and then turning around and doing the exact same thing to hype the Yonko > Harald lmfao

“But why wasn’t Harald ever called the strongest!!1!”
If any, wouldn't Roger left hand man be more credible than "titles" based on what fodders n the OP world believe? Gaban literally know what the likes of Primebeard or Roger are actually made of
 
Yea I'm actually downplaying Loki. Objectively looking at it that's exactly what this implies. I'm factoring in Oda taking it too far thanks to narrative and flashback context. My point is that you can't possibly push it lower than Loki > Harald, Xebec, Roger, Garp, WB etc.

His floor has been established above Harald, everything in the story screams that. Oda has put in all this effort to show Harald was around the top of this verse already. So being above a top 1 candidate by default puts Loki at the top of the verse. Not necessarily God tier, though again that's just me being conservative because even I can't believe Oda is going that far, but there's a limit to how far we can take this by being conservative. That limit is he is not on a tier of his own but he is at the top of the tier above the rest.

The question rn should be how much stronger is he. God tier has merit ofcourse given what he did. He's the only character this entire flashback who moved Imu. Magic fruit, haki, doesn't matter. The eos characters were always going to have hax. We've known about Teach's conditional hax for over 2 decades. We just got introduced to Luffy's in Wano, and now we have Loki.
The fact that your current reasoning leads you to such ludicrous conclusions as to believe a mid-end attack from Loki is superior to two Bajrang Guns, should be the first glaring indicator that perhaps you've gone wrong somewhere.

You are not currently acknowledging that Loki hit a defenseless Harald. Roger and Garp had to take down a fully defending Joyboy level character. Their feat is vastly superior from that perspective. Defenseless Oden was killed by a bullet. Defenseless Roger was killed by two fodder swordsmen. You are not acknowledging that Harald had absolutely no defense.

If it turns out that Loki's ability to kill immortals is a by-product of his DF, then you have vastly overestimated this feat. Even so, the only reason Roger and Garp struggled against a Joyboy level character was because of the CoC barrier. If Xebec took the CoC barrier down and laid himself bare like Harald, it would not have taken their absolute strongest attacks to put him down. Rn you're doing 2+2 and getting 22.
 
This was shanks sabaody moment,he realized mihawks wasn’t enough of a challenge to be able to change the world. Worl.d of the coast gave him the final push to lock in and become the pirate that is loved and wanked to this day
 
I ain’t no Loki fan, I just put this pfp up as soon as his eyes got revealed cuz it’s funny asf

he’s alright though

and yeah you’re right, DR Loki wouldn’t truly be him either
Oh I guess I was wrong lol mb

I thought you were a Loki fan and it seems like the general consensus of the Loki FC is him being DR’d would be lame

But iirc you like Zoro so I can kinda see why you’d want DR Loki

Fair play
 
The irony of complaining about people taking hype statements too literally, and then turning around and doing the exact same thing to hype the Yonko > Harald lmfao

“But why wasn’t Harald ever called the strongest!!1!”
Unlike Robin statement on Admirals being strongest fighters for WG, that WG official statement from Robin words, not her opinion mean Admiral title is more credit over gorosei and Holy knights.
 
Loki being introduced chained up and getting wrecked/humiliated by Gunko and Shamrock and still being stronger than Luffy would actually fit with Oda´s writing style pretty well. It would be similar to Roger dying from a random disease, someone like Kaido being a drunk mess with self hate, Katakuri having teenage girl level insecurities etc....

He talked about it in some SBS years ago that I can´t find. He dislikes the idea of making characters too perfect, he wouldn´t ever want to make a Madara/Aizen level aura farmer. And he likes to emphasize that anyone can fall victim to sneak attacks etc if they´re mortal
 

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If any, wouldn't Roger left hand man be more credible than "titles" based on what fodders n the OP world believe? Gaban literally know what the likes of Primebeard or Roger are actually made of
Well here’s the thing, the point that @sanjikun is missing is that the only reason people are making a big deal about Gaban’s statement is because there was so much cope surrounding Harald’s actual feats last chapter

Harald’s feats last chapter portray him as being able to swat Pirate King level characters like flies, but certain individuals coped endlessly about those feats and made up a bunch of bullshit excuses as to why those feats don’t really prove Harald would swat Primebeard easily

All Gaban’s statement does is reinforce the feats we already saw last chapter, and it completely invalidates all anti-Harald cope

Sanjikun acting like we take statements too seriously is hilarious, because the only reason this statement is a big deal is because it is consistent with the actual feats we already saw, lol

Meanwhile Sanjikun’s arguments are entirely based on hearsay and statements, bounty, no actual feats, titles spread by people who never knew Loki or Harald existed, etc…….

It’s just pathetic man lmfao.
 
I think I would be convinced at that point, but there´s always the possibility he´s in a cover story or something randomly, like Pound lol
At this point in the story, there’s really only 2 more arcs that NEED to happen (Laugh Tale and Final War). A Lodestar arc also has a pretty good shot at happening, but I don’t think that any other major arcs beyond those 3 are particularly likely. Maybe there’s a small chance that we get a Hachinosu arc or something crazy like a Moon arc, but I don’t really see those happening tbh. If Kid is gonna have any future role in the story, he kinda has to show up either in Elbaf or Lodestar imo. If the crew is sailing to LT and there hasn’t even been a peep about Kid, I think we can safely write Kid off as dead. Same with other stuff like Doffy being released from prison
 
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