Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1171 Spoilers Discussion

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

Respect the ranks

Individual strength like Mihawl and Loki, admirals from Cross guilds vs captain leadership like Roger and captain kidd are different bounty.

Leadership has higher bounty not personal strength.

 

[Definitivo]

I couldn't resist.

Yes, well, the Rookie Shanks who was dominating Harald wasn't very strong, to be honest.

 

[Zemlya]

What the fuck is that pfp
Reminds me that maybe I should change mine too, though. Just gotta think of what I should change it to

Been a celestial dragon stan for a while now

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

They’re good guys, so Lolda wanted to give them a happy ending. Kid isn’t a good guy and imo it’s kinda obvious that Oda doesn’t really like the guy

Wasn't it said that Oda expected Kidd to get popular and not Law? Or am I tripping?
Also Page One, Ulti and WsW survived..

 

[Welkin]

Ah. This isn’t something I ever thought of. If anything I’d imagine the straw hats jump him like Oars if he got DR’d

also #NewProfilePic

Zemlya new member of Slave Master FC #sheesh

Nah in all seriousness I’m in the same boat. Would be a pretty easy callback to the Strawhats vs Oars

People keep talking about Thriller Bark parallels and ignore the most obvious one lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Let´s start shipping Lola with Kidd to own the Loki fanboys
@sanjikun

That's necrophilia you sicko. Kidd's at the bottom of Davy Jone's Locker

 

[Jeanstealer]

Yes, well, the Rookie Shanks who was dominating Harald

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Been a celestial dragon stan for a while now

 

[Shiroyru]

He's one of the big new gen.

I doubt Oda is getting rid of him after Wano, and after he got out of his way to give him 3B.

He’s been powercliffed hard by Luffy and has no means of ever getting close to EoS Luffy’s level

 

[soupongo]

That's necrophilia you sicko. Kidd's at the bottom of Davy Jone's Locker

Lola´s preferences are 3 billion and up. Dead or alive doesn´t matter here.

 

[Shiroyru]

Wasn't it said that Oda expected Kidd to get popular and not Law? Or am I tripping?
Also Page One, Ulti and WsW survived..

Law cannibalized whatever focus Kid was gonna get

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Law cannibalized whatever focus Kid was gonna get

ok

Lola´s preferences are 3 billion and up. Dead or alive doesn´t matter here.

 

[Dragon777]

Yes, well, the Rookie Shanks who was dominating Harald wasn't very strong, to be honest.

~ 30 YO, Adv CoC (for years), "legendary duels" Shanks?

That was "Rookie" Shanks?,

 

[Zemlya]

Zemlya new member of Slave Master FC #sheesh

Nah in all seriousness I’m in the same boat. Would be a pretty easy callback to the Strawhats vs Oars

People keep talking about Thriller Bark parallels and ignore the most obvious one lol

Idk if it’s possible but gunko being saved from the clutches of imu and having her free will returned to her somehow could be a callback to brook gaining his shadow back, since she seemed to have that moment where she recognised brook briefly

 

[Dragon777]

He’s been powercliffed hard by Luffy and has no means of ever getting close to EoS Luffy’s level

He doesn't need to be Luffy's real rival.

As for means, well, he has CoC so the power up Is pretty spelled out.

 

[Shiroyru]

@soupongo Doesn’t the fact that the narrator said the Kid Pirates were “totally destroyed” while also saying that the fate of the Barto Club is only “unknown” (aka they almost certainly survived somehow) kinda heavily imply that, at the very least, the rest of Kid’s crew died?

 

[soupongo]

@soupongo Doesn’t the fact that the narrator said the Kid Pirates were “totally destroyed” while also saying that the fate of the Barto Club is only “unknown” (aka they almost certainly survived somehow) kinda heavily imply that, at the very least, the rest of Kid’s crew died?

cmon bro, we both know that the same thing was said about the SHP at sabody. But yeah, if the rest of the crew dies while Kidd is saved by the fishman, and probably killer as well, it would be a lot less micky mouse of a reveal(though still lame). There´s no actual way that a character who took down Big Mom is gone forever, though.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Imagine watching Woki swat possessed Harald all over Elbaph and then questioning if Loki could have beaten him lmfao

He didn’t

Loki just undid Imu’s control enough for Harald to return to his senses and give him a free shot

 

[Shiroyru]

He doesn't need to be Luffy's real rival.

As for means, well, he has CoC so the power up Is pretty spelled out.

Oda didn’t even give Kid’s CoC any focus at all in Wano. Even if he does unlock ACoC, he’ll still be fodder to EoS Luffy

 

[HeroesNZ]

Imo you're falling for the trap of nitpicking flashback feats and missing the bigger picture.

You and the people calling Loki “god tier” are actually two sides of the same coin right now. One side hyperanalyzes to poke holes in everything, while the other hyperanalyzes to conclude he can solo Prime WB + Garp + Roger combined.

The narrative is clear to me: Loki > Harald. How Oda got there, or how much exaggeration he used to sell it, doesn’t really matter to me at this point. I don’t believe Oda’s intent is for Loki to be below Harald after obtaining the fruit, he did far too much setup for that. We should be past that discussion by now.

What really matters is that being clearly above Harald is something even Xebec never had. That’s the real issue here, and that’s a major part of the reason why Imu was so shocked, and why Gaban thought it was over for the verse. An apex top tier is what Harald was.

I thought you were on the Loki is god tier team?

Our opinions on that front are not far off. I do believe Loki > Harald.

However, I also believe Roger and Whitebeard are the strongest modern day pirates, and WB > Harald.

Gaban thought it was over for the verse not because HK Harald is the outright strongest in verse even without regen, but because HK Harald is a high top-tier with unstoppable regen.

Even if someone like WB was individually stronger, without stopping regen, HK Harald would be unbeatable to him, hence why I believe Loki's fruit was involved. But, we'll see.

 

[Shiroyru]

cmon bro, we both know that the same thing was said about the SHP at sabody. But yeah, if the rest of the crew dies while Kidd is saved by the fishman, and probably killer as well, it would be a lot less micky mouse of a reveal(though still lame). There´s no actual way that a character who took down Big Mom is gone forever, though.

Those two scenarios really aren’t comparable at all though. For starters, the MC and his crew obviously weren’t permanently defeated. Second, we already knew that Kuma’s ability just teleports people instead of deleting them from existence, so we already knew for a fact that none of the SHs died there. It’s not like Hakoku magically teleported the Kid Pirates away, and it’s not like Dorry and Brogy had any intention of sparing their lives like Kuma did with the SHs.