General & Others Were Gaban and Shanks truly not strong enough to defeat Harald

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Actually, could that say something about Mihawk too? Because "pre-Yonko Shanks" was able to keep up with an extremely strong swordsman who's considered the best in the world after all.

Even assuming only Shanks got stronger but not Mihawk (for some weird reason), I don't see how this matters as HK Harald is one of the 5 strongest characters in the verse right now. It's not bad if Mihawk is below him

 

[kom5]

It took a prime Roger and Garp passing out to defeat DR Xebec, why is Gaban paired with a mid twenties Shanks unable to defeat Amped Harald unbelievable to you? It should be expected.

It's more that Loki could solo him which you have an issue with.

Well technically Loki woke him up and he let himself be killed.

 

[Malio]

Obviously. Otherwise they would've defeated him.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

I still can't believe they were unable to defeat him, even though Gaban was one of Roger's top underlings and Shanks was a top-ranked Holy Knight

Obviously not. Can't you read?

 

[sanjikun]

They were not, but I don't think it was simply a matter of power level like some make it seem. I think Gaban and young Shanks would beat Loki in a battle.

There is something either in Loki's DF or Ragnir's DF that counters Imu's devil fruit. This was emphasized over and over. I think their DFs can temporarily "freeze" Imu's powers, and counter it like the Yami Yami no Mi.

We just need to wait and have a proper explanation of how Loki's 2 DFs work.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

They were fodder compare to woki.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

They were not, but I don't think it was simply a matter of power level like some make it seem. I think Gaban and young Shanks would beat Loki in a battle.

There is something either in Loki's DF or Ragnir's DF that counters Imu's devil fruit. This was emphasized over and over. I think their DFs can temporarily "freeze" Imu's powers, and counter it like the Yami Yami no Mi.

We just need to wait and have a proper explanation of how Loki's 2 DFs work.

Your delusional Loki wipes the floor with Scopper

 

[TheD.]

They were not, but I don't think it was simply a matter of power level like some make it seem. I think Gaban and young Shanks would beat Loki in a battle.

There is something either in Loki's DF or Ragnir's DF that counters Imu's devil fruit. This was emphasized over and over. I think their DFs can temporarily "freeze" Imu's powers, and counter it like the Yami Yami no Mi.

We just need to wait and have a proper explanation of how Loki's 2 DFs work.

Dude stfu

 

[Kishido]

Physically yes but haki wise. No

 

[Mathias]

Prime Roger and Garp > Gaban and Shanks?!!!!

How could it be??

To be fair it's old Gaban and young Shanks.

How Loki was chained to that tree is still a mystery.

 

[Electricmastro]

Even assuming only Shanks got stronger but not Mihawk (for some weird reason), I don't see how this matters as HK Harald is one of the 5 strongest characters in the verse right now. It's not bad if Mihawk is below him

Except that Shanks was still able to defeat and capture Loki. So if Shanks is stronger enough than Loki to kick his ass, then that would mean he'd be stronger than Harald anyway. So something doesn't add up.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Except that Shanks was still able to defeat and capture Loki. So if Shanks is stronger enough than Loki to kick his ass, then that would mean he'd be stronger than Harald anyway. So something doesn't add up.

Eh we don't know how Loki got captured by him. The people in verse mostly believe Kaido captured Oden fairly, for example

 

[sanjikun]

Except that Shanks was still able to defeat and capture Loki. So if Shanks is stronger enough than Loki to kick his ass, then that would mean he'd be stronger than Harald anyway. So something doesn't add up.

DR Harald > Loki. It's only because his regen got slowed down enough to let Loki take one final hit that Loki won.

That's why he said "Hurry up."