Speculations Did Shanks beat Loki in a clean 1 vs 1?
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Maybe. I think it's quite clearly this though:
He already showed him in a "bad light" during the previous 3 chapters. No one with a sane mind comes to the conclusion that Shanks was even near Loki in terms of PL, at least during that time.
This is why it makes no sense to me too assume Shanks is stronger, because if he is, he must have gotten 100x stronger in 10 years
This is why it makes no sense to me too assume Shanks is stronger, because if he is, he must have gotten 100x stronger in 10 years
There are at least 4 foretold people who need to be born in the same era for the world to change.
The sea kings told us about their two sovereigns, one being Shira, the other one likely Loki.
The Roger Pirates and MJ know something about Shanks that we don't yet, but he wasn't called a child of destiny for no reason.
And a person who can awaken the Nika fruit is also needed. Roger thought that his son could fulfill this role; Ace failed, but Luffy succeeded within the same timeframe, so the Roger Pirates' estimate was not wrong.
On top of it, a wise Wano ruler seems to be added to the equation, otherwise the WG could become unstoppable.
IMO, these chosen ones come in pairs.
Shira and Loki as non-human leaders.
Shanks and Momo as rulers who facilitate the dawn.
Luffy and BB as dawn-bringers, one through liberation, the other through destruction.
When all these six are alive in the same age, fate can upend the world.
The sea kings told us about their two sovereigns, one being Shira, the other one likely Loki.
The Roger Pirates and MJ know something about Shanks that we don't yet, but he wasn't called a child of destiny for no reason.
And a person who can awaken the Nika fruit is also needed. Roger thought that his son could fulfill this role; Ace failed, but Luffy succeeded within the same timeframe, so the Roger Pirates' estimate was not wrong.
On top of it, a wise Wano ruler seems to be added to the equation, otherwise the WG could become unstoppable.
IMO, these chosen ones come in pairs.
Shira and Loki as non-human leaders.
Shanks and Momo as rulers who facilitate the dawn.
Luffy and BB as dawn-bringers, one through liberation, the other through destruction.
When all these six are alive in the same age, fate can upend the world.
There are different figures, but the big ones are all the same. Loki may be added, but it's Nika/Luffy, Poseiond and now Loki. Maybe BB as Davy Jones. The rest of them aren't "propetized" figures, those are simply the people who are going to be there when the time comes. And for those people, their ancestors prepared instructions: "For the rule of Wano pf the far future when Joy Boy returns, you'll have to do this". They are simply the rulers of the chosen time at which they'll have to follow the instructions.
The fact that Shanks went for the Gomu Gomu shows he thought he was Nika...only he wasn't. The child of destiny was clearly related to that plot imho.
Not to mention, as far as I am concerned, there is a flat 100% probability that Shanks is dying against BB, shortly I might add, so Shanks won't have role EoS whatsoever being dead by that time.
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If I remember correctly, Roger never said that to Shanks: it was the crew. Roger thought Ace was the one, and the crew didn't know of Ace until 14 years ago.
The fact that Shanks went for the Gomu Gomu shows he thought he was Nika...only he wasn't. The child of destiny was clearly related to that plot imho.
Not to mention, as far as I am concerned, there is a flat 100% probability that Shanks is dying against BB, shortly I might add, so Shanks won't have role EoS whatsoever being dead by that time.
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If I remember correctly, Roger never said that to Shanks: it was the crew. Roger thought Ace was the one, and the crew didn't know of Ace until 14 years ago.
You realize that that was a rookie Shanks who wasn’t even worth 1billion?
And he wasn’t portrayed in a bad light. He and Gaban fought against GK Harald and managed to damage him as Gaban stated. It was his regeneration that was a big problem. By the time Loki finished Harald off, Harald was already weakened.
You can slander Shanks all the way you want but in the end it is you guys who will cry about “ugh the power creep in one piece is horrible” when you realize that Loki got his ass handed to him by Shanks.
And he wasn’t portrayed in a bad light. He and Gaban fought against GK Harald and managed to damage him as Gaban stated. It was his regeneration that was a big problem. By the time Loki finished Harald off, Harald was already weakened.
You can slander Shanks all the way you want but in the end it is you guys who will cry about “ugh the power creep in one piece is horrible” when you realize that Loki got his ass handed to him by Shanks.
That wasn’t rookie Shanks, Shanks has been a pirate all his life. He already had legendary duels with Mihawk, and aCoC mastery.
Gaban and Shanks didn’t do anything to Harald, if they did then Harald should have been laid out for a long time like Garling was against Xebec. Gaban has clearly implied that Harald mitigated their aCoC attacks with his own aCoC. Again, regen isn’t normally a problem for the Roger pirates. They can easily incapacitate HKs, but Gaban couldn‘t do it to a stronger aCoC user.
Gaban and Shanks didn’t do anything to Harald, if they did then Harald should have been laid out for a long time like Garling was against Xebec. Gaban has clearly implied that Harald mitigated their aCoC attacks with his own aCoC. Again, regen isn’t normally a problem for the Roger pirates. They can easily incapacitate HKs, but Gaban couldn‘t do it to a stronger aCoC user.
The flashback also ended with Jarul telling Loki he's delusional if he thinks he's going to take on the WG.
So either Loki defeating Harald was a combination effort with Harald letting him take a final swing, or you guys just suck at reading.
So either Loki defeating Harald was a combination effort with Harald letting him take a final swing, or you guys just suck at reading.
Well, Gaban still calls him that even after they went to laughtale. Do you think he´s just bringing it up because it´s from the good old days? Because probably on laughtale they found out the next Joyboy couldn´t have been born yet, since Roger wanted it to be his son
Either way, we can agree to disagree, but I´ll imagine it has something to do with him surviving GV.
Either way, we can agree to disagree, but I´ll imagine it has something to do with him surviving GV.
