Speculations Sanji and Zoro both kill Sommers and Lillingham

Devilbat

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#25
I think Gunkimu will struggle when he fights Loki and Luffy and dissolves the covenants of Killingham and Sommers to strengthen himself.

Imu only dissolved the Abyss Covenant at Saturn, and Saturn died because he no longer had immortality.
I think zoro and sanjo will beat them up. Meanwhile Imu is getting jumped by Loki and goofy and will get his ass handed to him. So in a last ditch effort, Imu will take back his power from Sommers and Killingham, and use that burst of energy to teleport outta elfab.

Killing sommers and Killingham, while also not making imu any weaker for their deaths, since imu just reabsorbs the power he lent them.

We already saw how imu killing saturn did not have any effect on imu. This way, two HK will die and inu won't be any weaker, and we might get two new hk for endgame too.
Yes, this is very likely, very in-character for Imu, doesn't weaken him, gives a chance for new HK introductions if Oda needs them.
Also gives extra fights for Luffy & Loki, as we still need to get both Imunko and DR Dory & Brogy defeated, and you need a critical mass of CoC to defeat all three...
 
#26
This is an interesting and narratively coherent theory: Sanji and Zoro each eliminating a Divine Knight (Sommers and Lillingham) would finally give real weight to the “wings of the Pirate King”, while showing that these figures are not untouchable.
 
#27
Sanji will never kill anyone in his entire life. I agree that Sommers will not get out elbaph alive. Sanji will defeat sommers but Oda will give Loki the kill.
 

ZenZu

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#31
Zoro won't get anything from defeating fodders on this island hopefully can conclude this arc soon :whitepress:
Zoro will get the honour of fighting Greenbull after Mihawk. Have a bit more patience. The big names are finally coming up!
 
#32
Is there any bigger self sabotage then Zoro/Sanji fans downplaying Sommers and Killingham? We know that the strawhats are next going to Lodestar/Laughtale and given the fact that the man marked by flames probably doesn´t have a crew full of opponents, this is probably the last fight those two will have for a couple of years.

They´re pretty much bigger names then any previous Zoro/Sanji arc opponent except maybe King/Queen, but Oda is most likely going to boost the HK above those ¨bozos¨
 
#35
I think Sommers will be left incapacitated after Sanji wins, before dying because he loses his Seal.

My preferred end for Killingham is that Zoro kills him after an insane battle that resembles Yamamato VS Yhwach.

I think Sanji is perfectly capable of killing, but I'd prefer that be Zoro's domain.
 

Devilbat

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#36
Wasn't it implied that Zoro did kill some mooks during Crocodile as main antagonist arcs?
Plus his bloodlust was so strong that Monet couldn't get it together and apparently died.
So to me, Zoro is the one most likely to kill in SHP crew, with Robin being not that far behind.

Luffy and Sanji are both less likely to kill imo, they can beat their enemies senseless, but killing is likely to be accidental (like Kaido & BM conveniently falling to lava or whatever).

So I kinda like the new ZKK with Zoro killing Killingham, and Sanji overpowering Sommers so much that Imu ends up disappointed and kills the latter in the same way as he killed Saturn.
 
#37
Wasn't it implied that Zoro did kill some mooks during Crocodile as main antagonist arcs?
It was confirmed he killed the previous Mr 7.


Plus his bloodlust was so strong that Monet couldn't get it together and apparently died.
He simply intimidated her.

So to me, Zoro is the one most likely to kill in SHP crew, with Robin being not that far behind.
Robin was a literal assassin. She's much more capable of taking a life than any of the preskip Strawhats.

imo Jinbe is also perfectly capable of snatching a life. He spared Arlong because of the past.

Luffy and Sanji are both less likely to kill imo, they can beat their enemies senseless, but killing is likely to be accidental (like Kaido & BM conveniently falling to lava or whatever).
Luffy definitely less than Sanji.

Sanji is not a boy scout either and will kill, but he'd probably do more than Zoro to avoid it.
 
#38
It was confirmed he killed the previous Mr 7.




He simply intimidated her.



Robin was a literal assassin. She's much more capable of taking a life than any of the preskip Strawhats.

imo Jinbe is also perfectly capable of snatching a life. He spared Arlong because of the past.



Luffy definitely less than Sanji.

Sanji is not a boy scout either and will kill, but he'd probably do more than Zoro to avoid it.
Yes, but he always kills off-screen. The most likely scenario is that Sommers gets launched extremely high into the sky by a Zoro technique, similar to the one Rayleigh, the Dark King, used at God Valley. After that, we’d get around thirty cover pages showing the mini-adventures of Sommers, the fallen Divine Knight who has turned to gardening.
 
#39
Yes, but he always kills off-screen. The most likely scenario is that Sommers gets launched extremely high into the sky by a Zoro technique, similar to the one Rayleigh, the Dark King, used at God Valley. After that, we’d get around thirty cover pages showing the mini-adventures of Sommers, the fallen Divine Knight who has turned to gardening.
I think Oda's gonna be quite comfortable killing off Knights because they are among the worst people alive and the Seal mechanics essentially allows him to outsource their killing.

My preference is for Zoro to kill, and specifically kill those that Luffy wouldn't kill. That's why I wasn't against ZKK in principle, it's just that most theories about it were really dumb and missed the point. They focused on how cool Zoro would look for being the one to kill Kaidou, rather than appreciating the thematic weight of that, and how that ties into Zoro association with death and the underworld.

If I had my way, Killingham would be using his powers manifest Kuina leading an army of samurai ancestors of Wano. We've yet to see Zoro fight angry. Insulting Kuina's memory could trigger an overdue ragestomp.




Killingham is the perfect opponent to let Zoro get some massive AoE feats as well.

Cutting Pica was fine, but that was like 500 chapters ago.
 

Devilbat

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#40
It was confirmed he killed the previous Mr 7.




He simply intimidated her.



Robin was a literal assassin. She's much more capable of taking a life than any of the preskip Strawhats.

imo Jinbe is also perfectly capable of snatching a life. He spared Arlong because of the past.



Luffy definitely less than Sanji.

Sanji is not a boy scout either and will kill, but he'd probably do more than Zoro to avoid it.
Thanks for proving me with manga panels!
Yeah, Robin used to be an assassin, but rn she doesn't seem like someone ready to kill easily. Not that she won't, more like Oda's current portrayal of her doesn't give an impression of an assassin anymore.

And yeah, Sanji isn't not ready to kill of necessary, but his kindness was really emphasized a lot in WCI, so he seems like the one who will kill either if strictly necessary, or if he gets "evil Sanji" treatment.

Dunno about Jinbei, don't care about him that much to theorize how likely he is to kill.
 
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