Speculations Sanji and Zoro both kill Sommers and Lillingham
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I think Gunkimu will struggle when he fights Loki and Luffy and dissolves the covenants of Killingham and Sommers to strengthen himself.
Imu only dissolved the Abyss Covenant at Saturn, and Saturn died because he no longer had immortality.
Imu only dissolved the Abyss Covenant at Saturn, and Saturn died because he no longer had immortality.
Also gives extra fights for Luffy & Loki, as we still need to get both Imunko and DR Dory & Brogy defeated, and you need a critical mass of CoC to defeat all three...
Is there any bigger self sabotage then Zoro/Sanji fans downplaying Sommers and Killingham? We know that the strawhats are next going to Lodestar/Laughtale and given the fact that the man marked by flames probably doesn´t have a crew full of opponents, this is probably the last fight those two will have for a couple of years.
They´re pretty much bigger names then any previous Zoro/Sanji arc opponent except maybe King/Queen, but Oda is most likely going to boost the HK above those ¨bozos¨
They´re pretty much bigger names then any previous Zoro/Sanji arc opponent except maybe King/Queen, but Oda is most likely going to boost the HK above those ¨bozos¨
Wasn't it implied that Zoro did kill some mooks during Crocodile as main antagonist arcs?
Plus his bloodlust was so strong that Monet couldn't get it together and apparently died.
So to me, Zoro is the one most likely to kill in SHP crew, with Robin being not that far behind.
Luffy and Sanji are both less likely to kill imo, they can beat their enemies senseless, but killing is likely to be accidental (like Kaido & BM conveniently falling to lava or whatever).
So I kinda like the new ZKK with Zoro killing Killingham, and Sanji overpowering Sommers so much that Imu ends up disappointed and kills the latter in the same way as he killed Saturn.
Plus his bloodlust was so strong that Monet couldn't get it together and apparently died.
So to me, Zoro is the one most likely to kill in SHP crew, with Robin being not that far behind.
Luffy and Sanji are both less likely to kill imo, they can beat their enemies senseless, but killing is likely to be accidental (like Kaido & BM conveniently falling to lava or whatever).
So I kinda like the new ZKK with Zoro killing Killingham, and Sanji overpowering Sommers so much that Imu ends up disappointed and kills the latter in the same way as he killed Saturn.
It was confirmed he killed the previous Mr 7.
He simply intimidated her.
Robin was a literal assassin. She's much more capable of taking a life than any of the preskip Strawhats.
imo Jinbe is also perfectly capable of snatching a life. He spared Arlong because of the past.
Luffy definitely less than Sanji.
Sanji is not a boy scout either and will kill, but he'd probably do more than Zoro to avoid it.
He simply intimidated her.
Robin was a literal assassin. She's much more capable of taking a life than any of the preskip Strawhats.
imo Jinbe is also perfectly capable of snatching a life. He spared Arlong because of the past.
Luffy definitely less than Sanji.
Sanji is not a boy scout either and will kill, but he'd probably do more than Zoro to avoid it.
It was confirmed he killed the previous Mr 7.
He simply intimidated her.
Robin was a literal assassin. She's much more capable of taking a life than any of the preskip Strawhats.
imo Jinbe is also perfectly capable of snatching a life. He spared Arlong because of the past.
Luffy definitely less than Sanji.
Sanji is not a boy scout either and will kill, but he'd probably do more than Zoro to avoid it.
He simply intimidated her.
Robin was a literal assassin. She's much more capable of taking a life than any of the preskip Strawhats.
imo Jinbe is also perfectly capable of snatching a life. He spared Arlong because of the past.
Luffy definitely less than Sanji.
Sanji is not a boy scout either and will kill, but he'd probably do more than Zoro to avoid it.
I think Oda's gonna be quite comfortable killing off Knights because they are among the worst people alive and the Seal mechanics essentially allows him to outsource their killing.
My preference is for Zoro to kill, and specifically kill those that Luffy wouldn't kill. That's why I wasn't against ZKK in principle, it's just that most theories about it were really dumb and missed the point. They focused on how cool Zoro would look for being the one to kill Kaidou, rather than appreciating the thematic weight of that, and how that ties into Zoro association with death and the underworld.
If I had my way, Killingham would be using his powers manifest Kuina leading an army of samurai ancestors of Wano. We've yet to see Zoro fight angry. Insulting Kuina's memory could trigger an overdue ragestomp.
Killingham is the perfect opponent to let Zoro get some massive AoE feats as well.
Cutting Pica was fine, but that was like 500 chapters ago.
My preference is for Zoro to kill, and specifically kill those that Luffy wouldn't kill. That's why I wasn't against ZKK in principle, it's just that most theories about it were really dumb and missed the point. They focused on how cool Zoro would look for being the one to kill Kaidou, rather than appreciating the thematic weight of that, and how that ties into Zoro association with death and the underworld.
If I had my way, Killingham would be using his powers manifest Kuina leading an army of samurai ancestors of Wano. We've yet to see Zoro fight angry. Insulting Kuina's memory could trigger an overdue ragestomp.
Killingham is the perfect opponent to let Zoro get some massive AoE feats as well.
Cutting Pica was fine, but that was like 500 chapters ago.
It was confirmed he killed the previous Mr 7.
He simply intimidated her.
Robin was a literal assassin. She's much more capable of taking a life than any of the preskip Strawhats.
imo Jinbe is also perfectly capable of snatching a life. He spared Arlong because of the past.
Luffy definitely less than Sanji.
Sanji is not a boy scout either and will kill, but he'd probably do more than Zoro to avoid it.
He simply intimidated her.
Robin was a literal assassin. She's much more capable of taking a life than any of the preskip Strawhats.
imo Jinbe is also perfectly capable of snatching a life. He spared Arlong because of the past.
Luffy definitely less than Sanji.
Sanji is not a boy scout either and will kill, but he'd probably do more than Zoro to avoid it.
Yeah, Robin used to be an assassin, but rn she doesn't seem like someone ready to kill easily. Not that she won't, more like Oda's current portrayal of her doesn't give an impression of an assassin anymore.
And yeah, Sanji isn't not ready to kill of necessary, but his kindness was really emphasized a lot in WCI, so he seems like the one who will kill either if strictly necessary, or if he gets "evil Sanji" treatment.
Dunno about Jinbei, don't care about him that much to theorize how likely he is to kill.