Speculations Did Shanks beat Loki in a clean 1 vs 1?
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Dude, I already answered all of that,
I already said Loki have Superior Body & Superior World Threatening Power than Shanks, what more do you want?
But I told you that when Adv. CoC enters the Conversation, all that Superiority becomes Obsolete,
I literally listed so many Characters who are Superior than Shanks as a Being, but can They beat him? My Answer is No,
You're triggered by my first comment where I said that "Shanks can beat Loki in a fair 1v1",
And then you come & talk to me about Stats & whatever, even though I only mentioned Dueling, I never ever said Loki have Inferior Stats than Shanks, I even said that Loki is bigger Threat than Kaidou & WB,
You're just arguing for the sake of argument, you just want to say "I'm Biased" & then write a story around it,
Bias is when I lean towards an idea even though it doesn't apply to the logic I follow, it's when i twist & switch opinions to suit my agenda,
You can check my comment from previous threads about Adv. CoC, I always said that when Adv. CoC is included in a Duel, it makes all Stats Advantages Obsolete (Which includes DFs, Race Superiority, Abyss Contract, Science Boost, Special Weapons ... etc), and I don't apply my Logic only to Shanks, I said countless times that since Adv. CoC does that, then all Adv. CoC Users in their Prime are Equals, so I don't consider Roger or Xebec any different than Shanks, same for Garp or Oden or Rayleigh or Gaban,
My Opinion is still the same, I will not put anyone above Shanks & his Equals, unless I see a Power that Deletes Adv. CoC,
If Loki's DF or Ragnir is shown to Negate Adv. CoC, then I will be the first to put him above Shanks & his Peers.
I already said Loki have Superior Body & Superior World Threatening Power than Shanks, what more do you want?
But I told you that when Adv. CoC enters the Conversation, all that Superiority becomes Obsolete,
I literally listed so many Characters who are Superior than Shanks as a Being, but can They beat him? My Answer is No,
You're triggered by my first comment where I said that "Shanks can beat Loki in a fair 1v1",
And then you come & talk to me about Stats & whatever, even though I only mentioned Dueling, I never ever said Loki have Inferior Stats than Shanks, I even said that Loki is bigger Threat than Kaidou & WB,
You're just arguing for the sake of argument, you just want to say "I'm Biased" & then write a story around it,
Bias is when I lean towards an idea even though it doesn't apply to the logic I follow, it's when i twist & switch opinions to suit my agenda,
You can check my comment from previous threads about Adv. CoC, I always said that when Adv. CoC is included in a Duel, it makes all Stats Advantages Obsolete (Which includes DFs, Race Superiority, Abyss Contract, Science Boost, Special Weapons ... etc), and I don't apply my Logic only to Shanks, I said countless times that since Adv. CoC does that, then all Adv. CoC Users in their Prime are Equals, so I don't consider Roger or Xebec any different than Shanks, same for Garp or Oden or Rayleigh or Gaban,
My Opinion is still the same, I will not put anyone above Shanks & his Equals, unless I see a Power that Deletes Adv. CoC,
If Loki's DF or Ragnir is shown to Negate Adv. CoC, then I will be the first to put him above Shanks & his Peers.
I don't think that Shanks want to beat him. I think Shanks was too lazy to go for a long unneccessary fight. So he went in a good par or better then got his crew take Loki down.
Shanks didnt want Loki pointlessly die against WG. Harald death was already in Shanks mind.
Loki thinks Shanks was a Coward who didnt dare to go againts WG. But Shanks though the other view, that the requirements was still incomplete. (1 of them: Luffy 3b existence)
So i choose: *No, Shanks had help*
But it doesnt mean He couldnt beat him in extreme of high dif. That time (6 years ago) was the same year he became a Yonkou, so i cant put a mid diff. Maybe (maybe) different with the current shanks
Shanks didnt want Loki pointlessly die against WG. Harald death was already in Shanks mind.
Loki thinks Shanks was a Coward who didnt dare to go againts WG. But Shanks though the other view, that the requirements was still incomplete. (1 of them: Luffy 3b existence)
So i choose: *No, Shanks had help*
But it doesnt mean He couldnt beat him in extreme of high dif. That time (6 years ago) was the same year he became a Yonkou, so i cant put a mid diff. Maybe (maybe) different with the current shanks
There's no sources saying Mihawk > Shanks in the manga, if you mean your loose interpretatiom of statements in the manga, then i can show you at least 10 of those too. But way to go and derail every thread into constantly wishing for Mihawk > Shanks without any proof, and even adding more baseless wishes that Mihawk is the true god tier beside Loki.
Tbh, even if Loki isn't as strong as some say he is, it's a bit hard to believe Shanks from 6 years ago can beat someone that can fight on par with the likes of immortal Harald/Rocks. It's probably not a clear one-on-one, Shanks likely did something crazy and stopped Loki without actually defeating him.
Heard a theory that went like
“Shanks:Loki let’s see how strong you are,I don’t think you can break these massive strong-chains,prove me wrong if you can!!
Shanks and Loki discuss about this over a drink and Loki agrees.
Shanks then slaps some sense into him and gives him his vivre card while he’s chained up so that way they reunite some time in the future
It has some Norse mythology accuracy too so it could ironically play out.
“Shanks:Loki let’s see how strong you are,I don’t think you can break these massive strong-chains,prove me wrong if you can!!
Shanks and Loki discuss about this over a drink and Loki agrees.
Shanks then slaps some sense into him and gives him his vivre card while he’s chained up so that way they reunite some time in the future
It has some Norse mythology accuracy too so it could ironically play out.
Loki = Fenrir
Shanks = Tyr
Loki is the embodiment of what Xebec wanted for Harald to step into lol. A powerhouse with Elbaf‘s legendary fruit, and the strongest nation behind him. Loki is bare minimum stronger than base Harald and his equals. Would make zero sense for him to be weaker when he has the coveted ancient fruit. Some people still think that Shanks beat this guy in a 1-on-1 😂.
Shanks = Tyr
Loki is the embodiment of what Xebec wanted for Harald to step into lol. A powerhouse with Elbaf‘s legendary fruit, and the strongest nation behind him. Loki is bare minimum stronger than base Harald and his equals. Would make zero sense for him to be weaker when he has the coveted ancient fruit. Some people still think that Shanks beat this guy in a 1-on-1 😂.
