Friendly reminder Kuma had to save the SHs from HIM:
A Mythical God Zoan, Joyboy's fruit, the reincarnation of Nika or w/e couldn't put down Kizaru for good. What happened? Didn't even do permanent damage to him. Had to be saved by him too ironically. This Yonko, this future Pirate King, this man trained by the right hand of the former Pirate King couldn't even do shit to put down Kizaru for more than a few minutes. Lend me more asspulls/retcons Oda, this is a villain from PreTS I'm up against. One who took down my whole crew effortlessly like a walk in the (Sabaody) Park.
Luffy fans doing the most stretching in the series to match their idol.
The only time an Admiral has truly suffered an overwhelming defeat and especially killed/put down permanently was offscreen by one of the strongest characters in the series. A nameless, unknown Admiral who is probably much weaker than current ones or Xebec really was just HIM.