Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1172 Spoilers Discussion

How damn great is Zoro plan ?


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Because Robin and Usopp were no longer members of the crew at that time
I mean even if you don't include Enies Lobby for that reason then just look at most arcs. In terms of individual opponents at least 1 person usually gets the short end of the stick, sometimes multiple

In Baratie Nami doesn't fight

In Arlong Park Nami doesn't fight

Sanji doesn't get a fight in Little Garden

Zoro and Usopp do nothing during Drum Island

No Strawhat barring Luffy gets a fight during Jaya

Sanji and Usopp also don't get individual fights in Skypiea

Chopper, Robin, and Franky don't get individual fights during Thriller Bark

And those are just off the top of my head. Even pre timeskip every Strawhat didn't receive shine in every arc

A few of them usually got snubbed
 
Honestly, I really like it.
On it's own it's fine since it creates actual urgency and tension, the problem is Oda uses it for basically every single arc. He's actually one of the most repetitive writers out there when you think about it, he just manages to overcome it by writing the characters well enough to ignore it as well as giving some of them banger designs, fights, abilities, etc. Plus some of the places they go to like Water 7 and Thriller Bark are really cool aesthetically.
 
On it's own it's fine since it creates actual urgency and tension, the problem is Oda uses it for basically every single arc. He's actually one of the most repetitive writers out there when you think about it, he just manages to overcome it by writing the characters well enough to ignore it as well as giving some of them banger designs, fights, abilities, etc. Plus some of the places they go to like Water 7 and Thriller Bark are really cool aesthetically.
He’s an old-school author, so he follows the narrative arc rules to the letter, kind of like Dragon Ball.
 
In any case, it’s yet another story arc where the rest of the Straw Hats don’t get their own individual opponents.
Where is Jinbe’s opponent? Where is Franky’s opponent?
The next couple chapters are going to be about the mid straw hats like Franky Robin Brook and Jinbe.

Once Sanji frees them oda will focus them for a bit until Sanji and Zoro fight the giants
 
Joyboy notably has the Nika fruit, there´s no indication that his Haki could harm him, just the idea of Joyboy´s presence still being around gave him PTSD(like, Kaido and Oden). The FB seems to indicate pretty clearly that Haki isn´t the answer to Imu´s powers, or else Rocks(whos ancestor did likely fight Imu) would have had his goal of achieving Joyboys haki, not getting 2 specific devil fruits.

Imu is just a lot more invincible then Kaido ever was
The way i see it is different tbh, since Joyboy haki still capable of making Imu's down kneeling.
Its similar with Kaido Oden PTSD since its coming with direct contact. Hence why i think Haki could still injure Imu.

Top 6 at that time didn't had haki as strong as Joyboy.
Plus remember all the top 6 got a whole lot stronger after God Valley.
Even Rocks who is unstoppable at that time imo, is not on Joyboy's level of Haki.

I do agree that DF is the key here to defeat or cancel out imu's power, but the point where the debate start is when u claim that Haki can't injure Imu hence why guys like Zoro or Others can't and will not fight imu, while we see on FB that the Top 6 only used haki but still can fight them even tho it didn't "damage" Him.

Oda might gonna make Haki relevant again with some bs explanation or such to make them capable to fight imu with haki. Cuz the way i see Haki is the same as DF who amplifies their user main style of fight
 
I mean even if you don't include Enies Lobby for that reason then just look at most arcs. In terms of individual opponents at least 1 person usually gets the short end of the stick, sometimes multiple

In Baratie Nami doesn't fight

In Arlong Park Nami doesn't fight

Sanji doesn't get a fight in Little Garden

Zoro and Usopp do nothing during Drum Island

No Strawhat barring Luffy gets a fight during Jaya

Sanji and Usopp also don't get individual fights in Skypiea

Chopper, Robin, and Franky don't get individual fights during Thriller Bark

And those are just off the top of my head. Even pre timeskip every Strawhat didn't receive shine in every arc

A few of them usually got snubbed
you’re right, I hadn’t kept all that in mind anymore
 
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